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- East yorks
If today was the 18th Feb we would have been on, hard frost, glorious day, no wind and a couple of bits that are slightly backwards but still too early for us yet.
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Quite so.Now that crops are worth more, we are discussing exploring more expensive methods of growing them.
Same thing happened in 1973 when the price of oil suddenly trebled and the rush to the North Sea led to a huge surplus of gas which ICI converted into Nitram.
Nevertheless, the price of Nitram soon rose from £18/ton to £54 (£730 in today's money) and demand continued to increase.
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- Location
- Stratford on Avon
So I have an acreage of Rye to try out this year, I was told that Rye is like Rape and needs a sniff of N early,,,,,,,,,,,, but how early?????
Certainly you can see in the field where some volunteer barley from behind the combine has starved the Rye in the autumn and is spoiling the crop
Certainly you can see in the field where some volunteer barley from behind the combine has starved the Rye in the autumn and is spoiling the crop
A very successful farmer once told me, 'If you pay a farmer enough money for a product he will work out an expensive way to produce it'Now that crops are worth more, we are discussing exploring more expensive methods of growing them.
It's always stuck in my mind!
- Location
- Bedfordshire
That's probably the case in every industry
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Don't bother, it's well over rated
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Went out. Was cold. Came back in.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
This is very true! Many industries don't worry about costs quite as much as agriculture.
That said, with them it's often increasing margin, rather than increasing costs.Many just take the view that they'll try and extract as much as possible out of the customer..
- Location
- East meath/dublin
As @bankrupt is one of the first in the uk to start cutting w barley and is definitely no freshly minted young know it all then maybe he is best suited to decide when to start ..
Nobody knows their farm better than the farmer and somtimes you have to go with your instincts and to hell with the book !!
Nobody knows their farm better than the farmer and somtimes you have to go with your instincts and to hell with the book !!
Spencer
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- Location
- North West
In fairness we’ve had high pressure for a week or so, crops will need the Fert washing in, isn’t it about time someone started a drought thread .... 
Jon 3085
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- Location
- Worcester, UK
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
Hush your tonesIn fairness we’ve had high pressure for a week or so, crops will need the Fert washing in, isn’t it about time someone started a drought thread ....
We haven't finished drilling yet!
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Hush your tones
We haven't finished drilling yet!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Mid March here for N on winter barley, unless you want a tank full of screenings.
During the beast from the east year it was April before we got it on ours. It was blue. But we were the only folk in the district that made bushel weight according to our haulier.
During the beast from the east year it was April before we got it on ours. It was blue. But we were the only folk in the district that made bushel weight according to our haulier.
Late lifted beet?Hush your tones
We haven't finished drilling yet!
What was the yield? Barley yield is all about tiller numbers but as you say, too many tillers lowers spec weight and risks a flat crop unless you hammer it again with PGRs. I can see why the temptation is to apply some N to preserve the tillers but even in Devon, January is a long way from decent growing conditions.
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Huh, you speak for yourself!!! I planted my first spring crop at the end of NovemberNot so much late, almost good time for us.
"Normal for Norfolk"
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- Perthshire (It's a big place!)
I have 500 acres for grain near Perth, Its very robust and doesn't seem to look hungry like wheat or barley. Personally if I was getting going mid Feb I would just split 3 equal ways, if delayed to march I do it in 2 equal splits. But then I also try and have all N on all cereals before we get to potato planting etc, so finished by mid April. The rooting on rye means that it can capture the N quite well, just need to keep the tillers alive. Max N on the rye is 150kg/ha with 60 SO3. I use inhibitors and I can grow 10t/ha with that level of N on very light soils that would give 9 of wheat using 200kg.