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bankrupt

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EX17/20
Kicking off today on Hybrid WB.

As to profitability, recently seen lot of advisory nonsense about reduced applications due to the price of cereals having risen slower than the price of N.

Here, straw yields linearly correlate with N (up to the point of lodging) so straw sales still finance N purchases up to £2.50/kg.

So it's back to the same old problem with trying to maximize returns - just how many wet weekend lodging events are there actually going to be in June 2022 (WB) and July 2022 (WO,WW)?

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robbie

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BASIS
I was walking my winter barley this morning and you could really feel the sun on your back which immediately made we want to get the spinner out.

My thinking is rather than wait till the mid of feb, put half of my first dose on now, say 15/20 units and the same again in Feb to equal my normal 1st dose.

I think we've got a good few growing days forecast So the N will be made use of strengthening tillers and hopefully making more.
 

Gong Farmer

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S E Glos
Kicking off today on Hybrid WB.
Daft, but each to his own. You'll have to count this as autumn N and don't knock the dose off the total planned for spring. A dose at this stage will not build yield components and will only benefit if a) dry throughout Feb and March or b) the crop has only been in the ground a few weeks and is very backward.
Bear in mind you also paid a fortune for the N fertiliser. If you didn't, you'll make more profit selling it on eBay ;)
 

DRC

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I thought some of mine could do with loosing a few tillers today . Hasn’t really stopped growing .
thats continuous cereals and second yr of barley , but had pig muck under it . Heavy ground that doesn’t grow maize well, but now we are growing rape again, will break the cycle and put some on next year.
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czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
I thought some of mine could do with loosing a few tillers today . Hasn’t really stopped growing .
thats continuous cereals and second yr of barley , but had pig muck under it . Heavy ground that doesn’t grow maize well, but now we are growing rape again, will break the cycle and put some on next year.
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pictures from last April?
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robbie

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BASIS
Daft, but each to his own. You'll have to count this as autumn N and don't knock the dose off the total planned for spring. A dose at this stage will not build yield components and will only benefit if a) dry throughout Feb and March or b) the crop has only been in the ground a few weeks and is very backward.
Bear in mind you also paid a fortune for the N fertiliser. If you didn't, you'll make more profit selling it on eBay ;)
Surely if a dose soon helps retain tillers that that could be classed as yield building????
And it could be argued a dose now would benefit if we had a wet February and march and aren't able to travel when we need too and or the crop really needs it???

Just playing devils advocate.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Surely if a dose soon helps retain tillers that that could be classed as yield building????
And it could be argued a dose now would benefit if we had a wet February and march and aren't able to travel when we need too and or the crop really needs it???

Just playing devils advocate.

I expect he (Fromebridge) is drawing on decades of nitrogen trials which have included a timing element which have shown no benefit from Nitrogen applied this early in the New Year. From mid late February maybe.
 

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