Name of high tractor jaw hitch as used in Europe?

[Pilatus]

As above.
I am on about the fixed jaw hitch used on European tractors but not used over in the Uk,
The jaw is fixed on the tractor where the end of the top link is attached to the tractor.
I ask as I could do with one to hitch my trailed Biinderberger on to.

 

[tepapa]

 

[Lazy Sod]

I don't understand the use of high hitches, there are dangerous. There have been plenty of fatalities when pulling from the top link position. If there is enough resistance, it can cause the tractor to tip over backwards. All pulling should be from below the centre line of the back axle, the lower the better, subject to having enough ground clearance

 

[daveydiesel1]

I don't understand the use of high hitches, there are dangerous. There have been plenty of fatalities when pulling from the top link position. If there is enough resistance, it can cause the tractor to tip over backwards. All pulling should be from below the centre line of the back axle, the lower the better, subject to having enough ground clearance

Why is it the europeans never moved to a pickup hitch? Although i think we should have been buyin ball hitches since tractors went to around 100hp

 

[Tonym]

There must be plenty of those lying around in dealers yards that have imported tractors from Europe. You could pick up a bargain.

 

[spider mike]

They seem to get away with it in mainland Europe. But tractors nowadays are alot larger and heavier than they were in the 70's when those old health and safety videos were made that they showed at college

I was thinking about this the other day when round baling that they are onto something pulling a baler higher. The lowest point for the tractor is the pickup hitch. It makes sense increases ground clearance no crop catching on the drawbar. No hydraulic arms catching the crop or the machine drawbar. Am sure those with trailed prayers would benefit too later in the season.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Are they not used on lorries?

 

[Gerbert]

The hitch coming from the toplink is something from a long time ago. Nowadays they all have rails so you can adjust the height, and use all kinds of towing points. Scharmuller call them ladder hitches.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I don't think the hitch position on it's highest setting is that far above the axle so wouldn't be able to get near lifting the front end up. As other have said, it is handy for baling and spraying as it keeps the drawbar well away from the crop or link arms.

 

[Andrew]

They seem to get away with it in mainland Europe. But tractors nowadays are alot larger and heavier than they were in the 70's when those old health and safety videos were made that they showed at college

I was thinking about this the other day when round baling that they are onto something pulling a baler higher. The lowest point for the tractor is the pickup hitch. It makes sense increases ground clearance no crop catching on the drawbar. No hydraulic arms catching the crop or the machine drawbar. Am sure those with trailed prayers would benefit too later in the season.

We ran a square baler on a ball hitch on a ladder, the hitch was just above the PTO. Had a few benefits, but one major drawback - only fitted on the one tractor. Didn’t think it was worth it on the next baler so went back to a Scharmuller ball insert for the pickup hitch. Best all round IMO.

 

[deleted user 837354]

We ran a square baler on a ball hitch on a ladder, the hitch was just above the PTO. Had a few benefits, but one major drawback - only fitted on the one tractor. Didn’t think it was worth it on the next baler so went back to a Scharmuller ball insert for the pickup hitch. Best all round IMO.

No no, what you describe is an advantage- no more 'can I borrow that...?' As it won't fit anyone else's tractor.

 

[seedman stains]

Why is it the europeans never moved to a pickup hitch? Although i think we should have been buyin ball hitches since tractors went to around 100hp

No good according to my neighbour,although one or two of the more open minded have them and you see the odd advert in flyers for an after market fit.I would't have one without .
A neighbour came to collect a trailer from me and had a piece of wood in the cab to put under the jack to lift it heigh enough.
Not french enough for the french

 

[Tim Howard]

Are they not used on lorries?

Yes they were used on drags, that's before they started using close axle trailers.
I have fitted a few. You may be lucky enough to find a commercial breaker with one.
They are not suitable if you have much down wight on the draw bar though.

 

[thesilentone]

I don't understand the use of high hitches, there are dangerous. There have been plenty of fatalities when pulling from the top link position. If there is enough resistance, it can cause the tractor to tip over backwards. All pulling should be from below the centre line of the back axle, the lower the better, subject to having enough ground clearance

They use the higher mounting points for several reasons, namely, it's the most effective place to pull from, they have lots of four wheeler trailers, they have strict axle loading regulations.

 

[PSQ]

There must be plenty of those lying around in dealers yards that have imported tractors from Europe. You could pick up a bargain.

Or combine breakers. Our Claas has a factory fitted Rockinger hitch on the back axle for the header trailer.

 

[Hesstondriver]

We ran a square baler on a ball hitch on a ladder, the hitch was just above the PTO. Had a few benefits, but one major drawback - only fitted on the one tractor. Didn’t think it was worth it on the next baler so went back to a Scharmuller ball insert for the pickup hitch. Best all round IMO.

whats the chap in upton called who imports stuff - he might have one in his yard ?

 

[Netherfield]

With a turntable drawbar the higher hitch point has an advantage if the attaching point is higher on the tractor than the trailer, it forces weight down on the back axle , whereas the other way round the trailer front tries to lift up in the air. I have a book somewhere on commercial vehicles tech which explains it all in diagrams.

Beware there are different pin sizes, ERF in my avatar had a 40mm pin fitted, I think 50mm was more common in the commercial market on turntables and then there's 57mm as well.

 

[Andrew]

No no, what you describe is an advantage- no more 'can I borrow that...?' As it won't fit anyone else's tractor.

Never lend ours out, but a major disadvantage when only one tractor can even move it from one side of the shed to the other when it’s in the way!

whats the chap in upton called who imports stuff - he might have one in his yard ?

Paul Chattle but he’s packed up now. I wonder if @Cab-over Pete had one that come with his Xerion? If not try a second hand truck dealer.

 

[Hesstondriver]

Never lend ours out, but a major disadvantage when only one tractor can even move it from one side of the shed to the other when it’s in the way!



Paul Chattle but he’s packed up now. I wonder if @Cab-over Pete had one that come with his Xerion? If not try a second hand truck dealer.

ah right cheers ! Cheffins probably get them in

 

[Lazy Sod]

With a turntable drawbar the higher hitch point has an advantage if the attaching point is higher on the tractor than the trailer, it forces weight down on the back axle , whereas the other way round the trailer front tries to lift up in the air. I have a book somewhere on commercial vehicles tech which explains it all in diagrams

I'm sorry, I don't get that. If the hitch is below the axle, forward motion will impart a downward pressure on to the front axle, an advantage with a 4wd tractor. The lower the hitch, the more leverage applied. If the hitch was above the axle and the trailer was caught in such a way that it couldn't move, forward motion of the tractor would lift the front. Given enough power, and an idiot driver, the tractor would end up on it's back.