Why do some drillman drill such narrow headlands when using wide drills and then end up with drill underlapping,due to not enough room to line up drill with previous bout. Applies whether headlands drilled before or after drilling centre of field. Shame to end up with underlaping when field drilled straight as die and bouts matching perfectly,due to GPS technology.
narrow headlands/drill underlapping ??
- Thread starter Pilatus
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- Dorset/Wilts
What pi55es me off - no matter how many times I say - is cultivator man (father, uncle, cousin) not finishing the field off with the full headland cultivated 
. Cultivate to nose into the hedge then 3 times around - 2 if it's dad.
. Cultivate to nose into the hedge then 3 times around - 2 if it's dad.I can never understand why some are reluctant to do wide headlands whatever field operation, as makes life so much easier on kit and driver if one has plenty of room to turn whether using GPS or not .What pi55es me off - no matter how many times I say - is cultivator man (father, uncle, cousin) not finishing the field off with the full headland cultivated
del_boy
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- Location
- Herefordshire
This is how my cultivator man left the middle of the field for me to drill, pisses you right off. Far better when you do both jobs yourself
That is appalling,and that is putting it politely.Was it a student???
del_boy
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- Location
- Herefordshire
- Location
- northumberland
Try getting them to fill furrows in and level off corners [emoji57]
patrick4
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- Location
- co dublin. ireland
I am all for wide headlands mostly do 6 runs with 3 meter drill this allows for tramline to be put in on sixth run. you never have to cross a furrow as this is mostly out 12 to 15 meters from verge, and compaction is reduced because u are not restricted to one small area every year
Get the sprayer driver to drive the drill & you'll soon solve that problem. I have a special place in my personal hell set aside for ploughmen who use the headland tramline to do their ins and outs - nothing worse than a rough tramline
I suppose it was easier in the days of power harrows when you just did an extra round to fill those in.My sprayer driver prefers a full boom width (36m) as a headland despite GPS auto section control. That leaves plenty of space to turn the drill around.
General-Lee
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- Location
- Devon
18m headland works well here for a 4m trailed drill.
- Location
- cheshire
Using the headland tramlines for ins and outs with the plough is my number 1 pet hate (I’m the sprayer driver)and something I have failed miserably in over the years to coax our ploughman ( won’t drive sprayerGet the sprayer driver to drive the drill & you'll soon solve that problem. I have a special place in my personal hell set aside for ploughmen who use the headland tramline to do their ins and outs - nothing worse than a rough tramline
My sprayer driver prefers a full boom width (36m) as a headland despite GPS auto section control. That leaves plenty of space to turn the drill around.
) from not doing it Even worse when turning headlands out as always seem to end up with reign / drainage ditch just where one side of sprayer runs
Doesn’t seem to matter how many times you powerharrow it always slumps and pulls you all over place with bloody sprayer
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Get the sprayer driver to drive the drill & you'll soon solve that problem. I have a special place in my personal hell set aside for ploughmen who use the headland tramline to do their ins and outs - nothing worse than a rough tramline
My sprayer driver prefers a full boom width (36m) as a headland despite GPS auto section control. That leaves plenty of space to turn the drill around.
Even better - get the sprayer driver to drive the drill AND the plough
. 18m tramlines here and even tho it is a ballache I leave a 12m headland for the plough and the full 18m for the drill. Just need to find a few extra days to drive the cultivator as well then I won't have to moan to anyone........ until the rolling . Arghhhh its not hard to straighten your run!!!!!!Tractor Boy
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- Location
- Suffolk
Really. I used to use a 24m headland for my 4m jd but couldn’t stop the little triangle misses as the god straightened itself out and got square so now I do a 28m headland to make sure I set in square.
God? GPS?? Have you programmed in your offsets for the implement? That will help your turn ins a lot.
General-Lee
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- Location
- Devon
Yeah well that’s my lift out/drop mark, as it is 6 passes seems a lot, with 24m doing the headlands would seem endless!
It uses over 1/3 of the seed doing 24m headlands, so presumably it's 1/3 of the entire field....
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
The bigger the headland the better
the most efficient working is round and round
Triangular fields best with 2 or 3 headland tramlines
the most efficient working is round and round
Triangular fields best with 2 or 3 headland tramlines
- Location
- Wiltshire
Get the sprayer driver to drive the drill & you'll soon solve that problem. I have a special place in my personal hell set aside for ploughmen who use the headland tramline to do their ins and outs - nothing worse than a rough tramline
My sprayer driver prefers a full boom width (36m) as a headland despite GPS auto section control. That leaves plenty of space to turn the drill around.
I have a guy who occasionally helps who will plough until his nose is in the fence before he lifts the plough. It is a pain in the backside, he has his own farm and you would think he would know how to do it properly.
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Tompkins
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- Location
- NE Somerset
I tried explaining to one of our lads that they should pull the SL in and out on the last maize row of the headland, therefore leaving the same amount of headland all the way around. When I returned he'd left about 24m at each end of the field and anywhere between 4m and 10m up the sides.
It's on light land that doesn't need cultivating twice, one of my pet peeves...
It's on light land that doesn't need cultivating twice, one of my pet peeves...