National Beef Association on the wrong track ?

Old Tip

Member
Location
Cumbria
I read in the Farmers Guardian that the NBA are suggesting the age at which cattle can be sold as prime beef be lowered to 27 months to allegedly reduce the carbon footprint of beef production.
Firstly I completely disagree with their calculations as slower grown grass fed beef actuallytakes more carbon out of the atmosphere than it puts in plus needs less fossil fuels etc etc.
Secondly the American/Brazilian feedlot cereal based finishing system is where a lot of the bad press on beef comes from, our more pastoral raised beef has a unique marketing advantage and is what the consumer seems to want. You never see an advert for beef of a load of cattle in a yard or a shed.
Be intrested to here what the rest of the collective thinks about this but I for one will be revoking my membership of more than twenty years.

Old Tip
 

S J H

Member
Location
Bedfordshire
I read in the Farmers Guardian that the NBA are suggesting the age at which cattle can be sold as prime beef be lowered to 27 months to allegedly reduce the carbon footprint of beef production.
Firstly I completely disagree with their calculations as slower grown grass fed beef actuallytakes more carbon out of the atmosphere than it puts in plus needs less fossil fuels etc etc.
Secondly the American/Brazilian feedlot cereal based finishing system is where a lot of the bad press on beef comes from, our more pastoral raised beef has a unique marketing advantage and is what the consumer seems to want. You never see an advert for beef of a load of cattle in a yard or a shed.
Be intrested to here what the rest of the collective thinks about this but I for one will be revoking my membership of more than twenty years.

Old Tip
I’m glad someone agrees. They seem to be admitting to the claim that beef is bad for the environment.
 

Dan Powell

Member
Location
Shropshire
Yes exactly. All this talk of improving "productivity" (aka feeding more concentrates in a feedlot type environment) and modelling beef in the chicken industry is not just barking up the wrong tree, it's in the wrong bit of woodland altogether.

If you want to use that concentrate with maximum productivity feed it to humans, then fish, or chickens or pigs and maybe at a stretch to dairy cows.

Promoting 10 month old bull beef as sustainable is laughable.

What is a beef cow for? Converting forage to meat. Simple.

If this means that total output of beef drops per unit area of grassland, then that is a GOOD thing. It will support prices for 100% pasture fed beef which is where the focus of genetic research should be.
 

S J H

Member
Location
Bedfordshire
Yes exactly. All this talk of improving "productivity" (aka feeding more concentrates in a feedlot type environment) and modelling beef in the chicken industry is not just barking up the wrong tree, it's in the wrong bit of woodland altogether.

If you want to use that concentrate with maximum productivity feed it to humans, then fish, or chickens or pigs and maybe at a stretch to dairy cows.

Promoting 10 month old bull beef as sustainable is laughable.

What is a beef cow for? Converting forage to meat. Simple.

If this means that total output of beef drops per unit area of grassland, then that is a GOOD thing. It will support prices for 100% pasture fed beef which is where the focus of genetic research should be.
Exactly, and I think it’s the opposite way we should be going, with the new trade deals coming up.
 

Treg

Member
Location
Cornwall
I've not done the calculations on this but if they lowered the age & weights dropped, wouldn't you need to rear more animals to achieve the same amount of beef? :scratchhead:
Didn't need to say it twice :X3: (y):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::D
 

delilah

Member
the NBA are suggesting the age at which cattle can be sold as prime beef be lowered to 27 months
Not having seen the article, what does that actually mean ? Is 'prime beef' a legally defined phrase ? If selling direct would you not be able to use the phrase 'prime beef' for a 30 mth beast ? Is it a supermarket buying category ?
Confused as to what the practical implication is ?
 

Rejuvenating swards: Which option is best?

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Written by Brian McDonnell

Maintaining grass quality during mid-season grazing is important. Farmers can maintain quality by entering ideal grazing covers of 1,300 – 1,500kg DM/ha, and grazing down to a residual of 4cm every rotation.

If you are now in a situation where cows are not cleaning out paddocks as well as they should be, leading to the development of steamy grass within the sward, here are some options.

Common options for rejuvenating swards include:

  1. Take a silage cut, probably into bales, remove the material and start again with the aftermath...
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