National Food Strategy

[delilah]

The brief of the National Food Strategy was to examine the food chain.
The BBC go and interview the President of the NFU, who says 'yes, all our fault, we need to change how we farm'.
What the President of the NFU should have said "Go and look at the other links in the food chain, examine just how environmentally unsustainable that is, then come back to me and we can talk about cows".
A union is meant to fight for its members, not apologize on their behalf.

 

[SteveHants]

Cue BSE #2

Depends on what you are feeding. Can't see it being a problem in monogastrics, especially poultry.

 

[SteveHants]

Writings been on the wall for years about this. Brexit provided the perfect storm and cover to get this through and as I’ve moaned on about for ages, U.K. food production is going to be organic. If your not producing organic you’ve been sold down the river and your only answer is ELMS.
All other food that’s not U.K. organic will be imported via the multiple trade deals already signed up as well as the impending ones.

If you want to carry on as you are trying to compete with none organic imports then you’ll have to subsidise your own farm with diversification’s.

In other words your now going to provide your own SFP to carry on farming.

I’ve seen lots of farmers in the press saying they’ll diversify to replace the outgoing SFP …….. how stupid is that when you actually think about it, just so they can carry on farming!

Pretty sure that's not the feeling in the poultry sector.
A lot of people seem to be thinking mostly about ruminants when 80% of the meat we eat is pig and poultry.

 

[warksfarmer]

Pretty sure that's not the feeling in the poultry sector.
A lot of people seem to be thinking mostly about ruminants when 80% of the meat we eat is pig and poultry.

Doesn’t matter what we think who work in the industry or individual agricultural sector. It’s what the government and joe public think and we the farmers are fighting a loosing battle. Our futures have already been decided.

 

[Clive]

I see the Nation Food Strategy due out next week has been leaked to the papers. Write up in the Times today.

Aims - "break the junk food cycle"

Headline - "Free fruit and Veg planned for the poor"

Mentions for eating Algae instead of meat. A "meat tax" is not going to be included, but doesn't look like a carbon tax is either.

this the Henry Dimbleby report ? He hinted heavily at the free fruit and veg thing at OFC back in 2019, makes a lot of sense

this country is poised to be crippled by the cost of obesity and diabetes, it’s a far bigger risk to the NHS than covid imo

 

[Chris F]

this the Henry Dimbleby report ? He hinted heavily at the free fruit and veg thing at OFC back in 2019, makes a lot of sense

this country is poised to be crippled by the cost of obesity and diabetes, it’s a far bigger risk to the NHS than covid imo

Yes it is.

The fight against ultra processed has begun.

 

[delilah]

The fight against ultra processed has begun.

Wonder if Dimbleby will include meat substitutes in the definition of ultra processed food ?
Whole thing will be a sham. Part 1 is already sitting on shelves gathering dust, by dodging the real issues in the food chain Part 2 will go the same way.

 

[steveR]

Leaked on purpose i'll bet. Seems to be SOP these days. Leak anything that might be even remotely contentious to the press, then sit back and see what the response on social media is.

That aside, does anyone really want to take dietary advice from a chubster like Henry Dimbleby?

Well, there is the saying of "never trust a skinny chef", so maybe HD is the same??

 

[steveR]

I like seaweed. It should be part of a healthy, balanced, diet, imv. Could we grow enough in the unpolluted coastal waters of this European archipelago for everyone in this group of nations to include sea algae in their diet?

The perfect "crop" to benefit from all the shite the Water companies are dumping into rivers, which then outfall to the British coast... Unpolluted??

 

[Chris F]

Wonder if Dimbleby will include meat substitutes in the definition of ultra processed food ?
Whole thing will be a sham. Part 1 is already sitting on shelves gathering dust, by dodging the real issues in the food chain Part 2 will go the same way.

This is the bit I like and yes it will catch meat substitues:

“The strategy also positions ultra-processed foods as the new frontier in the battle against obesity and chronic disease. The proposed tax on salt and sugar is hugely important and should be enacted by the Government, but we would urge further action more squarely targeting ultra-processed foods. The French government has introduced a percentage reduction target for ultra-processed foods in the diet, and we should be introducing a similar target in England.

 

[manhill]

The brief of the National Food Strategy was to examine the food chain.
The BBC go and interview the President of the NFU, who says 'yes, all our fault, we need to change how we farm'.
What the President of the NFU should have said "Go and look at the other links in the food chain, examine just how environmentally unsustainable that is, then come back to me and we can talk about cows".
A union is meant to fight for its members, not apologize on their behalf.

One more reason to cancel membership. Just useless! Hard to believe they're on the side of farmers.

 

[delilah]

This is the bit I like and yes it will catch meat substitues:

“The strategy also positions ultra-processed foods as the new frontier in the battle against obesity and chronic disease. The proposed tax on salt and sugar is hugely important and should be enacted by the Government, but we would urge further action more squarely targeting ultra-processed foods. The French government has introduced a percentage reduction target for ultra-processed foods in the diet, and we should be introducing a similar target in England.

So we've got to eat less meat, and no meat substitutes - because less than current levels is nothing.
You had a media advance release then ?

 

[Chris F]

So we've got to eat less meat, and no meat substitutes - because less than current levels is nothing.
You had a media advance release then ?

Some of it. It actually says we should eat less intensive meat. Not eat less meat. Pushing the blame on "bad" meat abroad. A lot of processed food also including meat from abroad thus getting a double whammy.

But lets face it - this is where all the supply chain profit it - food processing.

 

[steveR]

This is the bit I like and yes it will catch meat substitues:

“The strategy also positions ultra-processed foods as the new frontier in the battle against obesity and chronic disease. The proposed tax on salt and sugar is hugely important and should be enacted by the Government, but we would urge further action more squarely targeting ultra-processed foods. The French government has introduced a percentage reduction target for ultra-processed foods in the diet, and we should be introducing a similar target in England.

That measue will be chopped back (or down) once the industrial food manufacturers get their corporate lobbying groups going...

 

[jondear]

Black soldier fly larvae as protein alternative for hungry humans

Black soldier fly larvae contains more zinc and iron than lean meat and its calcium content is higher than milk. Less than half a hectare of black soldier fly larvae can produce more protein than cattle grazing on around 1200 hectares, or 52 hectares of soybeans. New research has identified the...

www.sciencedaily.com

If I was a young man with a few acres and a big shed, I would be seriously looking at it

I think I would rather be vegan !

 

[jondear]

Just what I thought - bottom of the s**t pile as usual.

But looking at most of the others on that list two words come to mind - ‘vested’ and ‘interest’



Exactly.. Make it free and it becomes even more worthless and destined to be wasted.



That and everyone flying out on their holidays which it seems they’re determined to do!

Yea but they deserve it don't you know!
We can stay here carrying on feckin the planet with cows!

 

[Chris F]

That measue will be chopped back (or down) once the industrial food manufacturers get their corporate lobbying groups going...

Yep - what actually makes it into policy is a different matter.

 

[delilah]

That measue will be chopped back (or down) once the industrial food manufacturers get their corporate lobbying groups going...

What we really need.......is a lobby group promoting the environmental benefits of eating red meat.

 

[warksfarmer]

One more reason to cancel membership. Just useless! Hard to believe they're on the side of farmers.

Batters is THE worst Nfu president in its history. She’s steering the ‘farming union’ against farming.

Jesus Christ guys why the hell are you paying your annual subscription. Your better off subscribing to a copy of ‘dog s**t monthly’ where they analyse the content of dog s**t.

The Nfu is a disgrace and it should be disbanded. £20 million a year on staff salaries and it’s against U.K. agriculture. If you’re still a member you are a blithering idiot.

She’s gone on record saying U.K. agriculture needs to do better. Since when did U.K. agriculture create fast food or convenience food?

We never have. We just supply the core ingredients and then the processors poison the people, not us. But Batters can’t tell the truth ……….. she has to carry on ruining our industry, but it’s ok as she’s riding the gravy train and will get a knighthood.

 

[manhill]

So we've got to eat less meat, and no meat substitutes - because less than current levels is nothing.
You had a media advance release then ?

Why does someone have to spoil the nice things in life? I haven't had a Big Mac in years and I've been salivating recently for one, now it's almost a criminal offence to buy one.