National grid alert

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
This shows the stupidity of relying on solar and wind. Highest demand will be on a cold and still evening when these sources are useless. Quite happy to import electricity from France with no questions about how it is produced. A bit like not caring how imported food is produced.

Next with smart meters will be the ability to charge us more for using it at peak times such as, er, cold winter evenings....

Yep, there will come a big,blocking High Pressure area, around mid January, that will push the system hard.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I have just received an alert from the National Grid that demand this afternoon will be within 1/3rd % as I understand of capacity.
Time to check your generators! And put your electric cars away.
But, what are we doing in this situation?

Has @Clive plugged his car in to charge? :ROFLMAO:

On a more serious note, excess capacity costs money. Are they just getting better at matching supply and demand, with more instantly available sources?

 
Whats the answer then, better grid or generating capacity, or both?

The answers is decent sized gas turbines left on standby ready. They can be at full load in under 2 minutes. Locate them where the power is needed and we have mini stations ready, no grid upgrades needed.

We have to have something fossil fuel based that’s efficient but cheap enough to run, granted much more ££££ than a big station but they are very expensive to have on tick over and take days to warm up and cool.

These are now being designed to run on hydrogen blends as well making them even more efficient.

NG want them, ive seen the letters from them. The issue planners not wanting such things as it doesn’t help them directly.

They only need to be on supply crashes.
 

C.J

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Devon
The answers is decent sized gas turbines left on standby ready. They can be at full load in under 2 minutes. Locate them where the power is needed and we have mini stations ready, no grid upgrades needed.

We have to have something fossil fuel based that’s efficient but cheap enough to run, granted much more ££££ than a big station but they are very expensive to have on tick over and take days to warm up and cool.

These are now being designed to run on hydrogen blends as well making them even more efficient.

NG want them, ive seen the letters from them. The issue planners not wanting such things as it doesn’t help them directly.

They only need to be on supply crashes.

There have been a few planned locally but " Extinction Re bell ends " put a stop to them
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
everyone knows the grid wont be up to it shortly.

as for renewable s you lot seem to have as closed minds as the government.....:rolleyes:... or is it to do with politics......its not money because that gets wasted enough ....
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
You unplugged the meter, or just your little connected box to show you what is happening? The actual meters don't use the phone network any more - we have a mast nearby that they can talk to, on a completely different network system.
If the meters don’t use the phone network. How do they report back?
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
What about giant tread mills filled with the great unemployed masses.

It seems logical.

It would be much sustainable if people sat on spin cycles in offices that could generate electricty rather than travel and pay to go to fitness suites after they finish.

I do have a dystopian vision of our computers telling us to pedal faster or they won't order our tea......
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
What about giant tread mills filled with the great unemployed masses.
check out the top twenty BPS recipients as being some good examples of wasted money.

and A Severn Barrage would cost fair bit less than a fudging bridge to NI ,

course l;like you elude to things are a bit different atm.
 

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