National Trust or is it “distrust”?

bluepower

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Livestock Farmer
Interesting article. I’m sure @bluepower will enjoy it if he hasn’t already seen it 😉

Not too much to add to that.I just wonder how long it will be before they realise what a mistake they are making? A lot of the damage they are doing is irrepairable. Someone needs to take hold of this situation and sort it. That may well take an act of parliament, in my eyes they are not fit for purpose and should be broken up and fed to the dogs.
In the course of time truths will come to light and people need to be held accountable for their actions, whether that will happen is in the hands of the members and ultimatley the government.
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
NT has got far too big for it's boots and needs to be brought to heal. With an income of over £680,000,000 for the last full financial year (yes, that's 680 million. I checked on the Charity Commission website), it thinks it's some kind of business, not a charity. It certainly pays it's bosses like a business. It's head honcho is on higher pay than the Prime Minister...
 

Formatted

Member
Livestock Farmer
It's head honcho is on higher pay than the Prime Minister...
What a ridiculous comparison. £680,000,000 revenue is more than some listed companies and their bosses would be on just shy of a million pounds a year salary. You could argue that the Prime Minister isn't paid enough, rather than head of the Trust being paid to much!
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
What a ridiculous comparison. £680,000,000 revenue is more than some listed companies and their bosses would be on just shy of a million pounds a year salary. You could argue that the Prime Minister isn't paid enough, rather than head of the Trust being paid to much!
All they do to us tenants is plead poverty. No money to do anything to their farm properties, the plight of the charity in these troubled times etc, etc. You need to come and experience it from this side of the fence, then you would change yor tune, unless you are employed by the NT?
 

Formatted

Member
Livestock Farmer
All they do to us tenants is plead poverty. No money to do anything to their farm properties, the plight of the charity in these troubled times etc, etc.
Aren't most of you on AHA's with rents so low you're making money just with the subsidy?

You need to come and experience it from this side of the fence, then you would change yor tune, unless you are employed by the NT?
We've had this chat before but for the benefit for everyone else, the last NT tenancy viewing day we were to there were 76 people there and they had over 20 applications. You might be incredibly unhappy with your relationship with the NT but there is a generation of young farmers who would love the opportunity.
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
All they do to us tenants is plead poverty. No money to do anything to their farm properties, the plight of the charity in these troubled times etc, etc. You need to come and experience it from this side of the fence, then you would change yor tune, unless you are employed by the NT?

I understood the point that @Formatted was making. Don't be too hard on him @bluepower he's like you, a decent chap ;)
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
What a ridiculous comparison. £680,000,000 revenue is more than some listed companies and their bosses would be on just shy of a million pounds a year salary. You could argue that the Prime Minister isn't paid enough, rather than head of the Trust being paid to much!

It's hardly a ridiculous comparison. You're forgetting that it's a charity, not a business. A charity that pleads poverty, relies on tens of thousands of unpaid volunteers, and has more than £1.3 billion in investments on which it gets truly massive tax breaks.
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
Aren't most of you on AHA's with rents so low you're making money just with the subsidy?


We've had this chat before but for the benefit for everyone else, the last NT tenancy viewing day we were to there were 76 people there and they had over 20 applications. You might be incredibly unhappy with your relationship with the NT but there is a generation of young farmers who would love the opportunity.
You don't know what sort of tenancy I am on, so don;t assume. I am not on an AHA tenancy.

The fact that there were lots of people at a viewing day merely highlights the desperate shortage of farms to rent for people wanting to get into farming. I do know what I am talking about as a trained land agent and a son who is actively looking for a farm to rent at the moment. He would not be looking at any NT farms by the way!

I do not have a relationship with the NT, they have made sure of that by treating tenant farmers as the enemy.

I appreciate that young farmers would love the opportunity but it must be a sound business model or they will not suceed. How can splitting up a 450 acre farm and taking away the house and buildings be of any benefit to a young farmer?

As a point of reference there were over 200 people on the viewing day for this farm and that was 25 years ago!!!
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Bugs me that they disrupt the land market with their bottomless pit of money.

Small family farmer works hard, wants to progress and buy neighbouring farm, NT come in and buy it.

Not right.

...and they don't bother me as such, because we're in a boring arable landscape, but feel for the communities NT prey on. Maybe NT don't think about how their land purchases affect communities, but they should realise.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
I don't care about the whys or wherefores, no civil servant in the land should be paid more than the prime minister. It is that simple.

These fudging charities are nothing of the sort, they are limited companies and they need taxing.
NT are not civil servants, are they?
 

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