Natural England Weeds Act

renewablejohn

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lancs
Horses would count yes,they are mentioned in the guidelines. But regardless, you know that the ragwort in question isn't covered by the weeds act, NE have already concluded that,so unless their letter requires you to do anything I'd file it in the bin, because I doubt they'll be taking any more action.

There letter requires you to fill in a Weed 3 form by a set deadline. Which is the same Weed 3 form filled in earlier in the year.
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
Was on the land yesterday doing a bit of flailing of a small patch of creeping thistle when the neighbor reponsible for the complaints came across to the wife and said all flower heads had to be cut by 21st August. Am I missing something or is there legislation somewhere or cross compliance which states hay fields must be cut by the 21st August as she was very specific about the date.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Fill it in then and send it back as before. If they want to waste their time sending inspectors out to look at something that they inspected a few months ago, and you've flailed since, let them.

Have just been conned by Natural Englands business reply envelope. Had to send the Weed3 form back by 22nd August so duly sent back in good time using Natural Englands prepaid envelope which they had sent with the weed3 form. Turns out this snail mail did not arrive until 23rd August so automatic request made to RPA for inspector to attend for site inspection despite site inspection already made on 8th June 2018 .This found to be in full compliance with the Weeds Act and letter received from Natural England to that effect. This is now pure harrassment but just shows how weak the NFU and CLA are in allowing Natural Eungland to interpret the law in this way. Moral of the story only communicate with Natural England by recorded delivery. It just shows that Natural England cannot be trusted.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Fill it in then and send it back as before. If they want to waste their time sending inspectors out to look at something that they inspected a few months ago, and you've flailed since, let them.

Well the inspection happened the result was exactly the same apart from the fact I now have a piece of paper to wave under the nose of this awkward neighbor to say the ragwort in the field is confirmed to be Hoary ragwort and not part of the weeds act. The inspector was really annoyed with this time wasting neighbor but as he explained they cannot as yet take action against such claims.
 

HolzKopf

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Location
Kent&Snuffit
Was on the land yesterday doing a bit of flailing of a small patch of creeping thistle when the neighbor reponsible for the complaints came across to the wife and said all flower heads had to be cut by 21st August. Am I missing something or is there legislation somewhere or cross compliance which states hay fields must be cut by the 21st August as she was very specific about the date.
You sound a bit on the back foot with these neighbours? Theyr'e the ones causing the grief. Why have any truck with them; get on with your life and ignore them. You know their carping on is vexacious. NE can't harm you.
Cross these neighbours of your Christmas card list, tell the wife not to engage in dialogue and move on :)

HK
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
You sound a bit on the back foot with these neighbours? Theyr'e the ones causing the grief. Why have any truck with them; get on with your life and ignore them. You know their carping on is vexacious. NE can't harm you.
Cross these neighbours of your Christmas card list, tell the wife not to engage in dialogue and move on :)

HK

Land is prime building land in the middle of the village. The land being pinched would form part of the main access road into the site hence the reason why it is so important to resolve the issue.
 

HolzKopf

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Location
Kent&Snuffit
I hadn't appreciated that the real issue is ownership of the land - not the weeds. Your'e obviously both engaged on the legal route already. Is the ownership of the land disputed then? - have you employed a boundary surveyor for his opinion, what does the local authority have down for the land in its local plan? If as you say, the neighbours are threatening an injunction well that's a 10k bite - even if a judge finds grounds for it. Sounds to me like the weeds are really the least of this problem :scratchhead:
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
I hadn't appreciated that the real issue is ownership of the land - not the weeds. Your'e obviously both engaged on the legal route already. Is the ownership of the land disputed then? - have you employed a boundary surveyor for his opinion, what does the local authority have down for the land in its local plan? If as you say, the neighbours are threatening an injunction well that's a 10k bite - even if a judge finds grounds for it. Sounds to me like the weeds are really the least of this problem :scratchhead:

As per very first post it has always been about the land the weeds is just a side issue which they thought they could use against us. They have constructed fences and planted hedges on our land which they now claim where the original fence lines. Fortunately the pictures they have provided have shot themselves in the foot supporting our position. The actual dimensions of the original land sold is not in dispute as it is registered on the deeds with a covering map showing boundary ditches. Have now employed agri surveyor to actually quantify the amount of land taken compared to the original sale.
 

HolzKopf

Member
Location
Kent&Snuffit
As per very first post it has always been about the land the weeds is just a side issue which they thought they could use against us. They have constructed fences and planted hedges on our land which they now claim where the original fence lines. Fortunately the pictures they have provided have shot themselves in the foot supporting our position. The actual dimensions of the original land sold is not in dispute as it is registered on the deeds with a covering map showing boundary ditches. Have now employed agri surveyor to actually quantify the amount of land taken compared to the original sale.

Sounds a plan - thank heaven you've got the map. Good luck with it

HK
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
I hope that you have taken the fences down.

My first reaction was to chop the lot down but I have been restrained for now by my solicitor, the other side have already threatened a restraining order if I did start chopping down. That is why a surveyor was employed to calculate the additional land that had been claimed which they would not have been able to do if I had just uprooted the fences and plants.
 

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