Need Advice please on Yield and seeding rate!

Westin

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Our Indonesia departemen of agriculture advice Farmers to plant like that(like the one in picture) , 20cm by 70cm about 50-60k population per hectare...about 12kg of maize seeds....claimed to have a yield of 12 tonne per hectare of maize at 15% water content....is that a possibly achievable yield for us Farmers? Our ferts are about 300kg urea N47 equal to roughly 141kg N per hectare dan 200kg NPK 15:15:15...
What is the best yield under this seeding rate and fertilizer per hectare?
Currently Indonesia has shortage of corn but oversupply of eggs and chicken by more than 50% from demand....today price , a dozen of eggs only price at 0.437 poundsterling...
Agriculture departement claimed maize surplus of 11 Millions metric tonnes but price of maizes keep raising to 300 poundsterling per tonne....
Our dear chicken Farmers raise hell about how price of maize is killing them by loosing money at the rate of 0.2 poundsterling per dozen of eggs(12 pcs)...
Please kindly share some of your thought...for maize Farmers and chicken Farmers...
Now our chicken eggs Farmers Asked govt to dictate and force maize Farmers to reduce price of maize to 200 poundsterling per tonne
 

Flatlander

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Twin row corn/maize is gaining popularity in the US. they would be more in touch with fertilizer demands or grain maize. That being said here in Canada the fertilizer rate your using would not produce that yield unless you soil test shows very high Pand K. maize Is a hungry crop and will respond well to increased fertility The N is getting close to adequate assuming test show at least 100 kg in the soil already. Those weeds need taking out ASAP too. Maize won’t compete while small. Plant population is on the low side too. Ideally you need perfect spacing. No skips or doubles and planted a minimum of an inch and a half for basal roots to anchor. Aim at 75000 seeds a hectare or 30k an acre. Nit sure what you weather conditions are there but this is what would be pretty standard for southern Canada to target maximum yield in our climate. good luck.
 

Westin

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Twin row corn/maize is gaining popularity in the US. they would be more in touch with fertilizer demands or grain maize. That being said here in Canada the fertilizer rate your using would not produce that yield unless you soil test shows very high Pand K. maize Is a hungry crop and will respond well to increased fertility The N is getting close to adequate assuming test show at least 100 kg in the soil already. Those weeds need taking out ASAP too. Maize won’t compete while small. Plant population is on the low side too. Ideally you need perfect spacing. No skips or doubles and planted a minimum of an inch and a half for basal roots to anchor. Aim at 75000 seeds a hectare or 30k an acre. Nit sure what you weather conditions are there but this is what would be pretty standard for southern Canada to target maximum yield in our climate. good luck.
Our Soil P is about 30kg , but very low on K, like 5kg....we plan to take out the weeds by using selective herbicide convey...on seeding rate, i agree with you...read some research about how it should go up to 90-100k population per hectare, but not sure about adding more ferts and our limited tropical sun shine effective hours at 6-8 hours( though we have 12 hours day light, with plenty clouds and rain at least once a week...
 

teslacoils

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Ah yes, i did apply one tonne of chicken manure per hectare, location Sukabumi, west Java, Indonesia

Ok, are you growing one crop of maize per year? Or do you grow maize and another crop (mung bean maybe) in the same year?

I'm guessing you have a rainy season; that it's fairly humid; that your temperatures and daylight are fairly constant during the year. Oh, and when it does rain, it rains *a lot*.
 

Westin

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We have two option, two seasons of maize on Highland or one season of maize and one season of rice paddy... temperature daytime on Highland ranging 23 Celcius to 28 Celcius, nite time temperature ranging 16 Celcius to 20 Celcius....Humidity on Highland is ranging 77-92 percent depends on Monsoon or dryspell..
On low land, temperature daytime ranging 32 Celcius to 37 Celcius...nitetime from 28-30 Celcius with Humidity 80-92 percent....rainfall is 3000mm across the board
 

Flatlander

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gees that a serious amount of rain. You’ll need to be spoon feeding your K and N or risk it leaching out. The chicken manure will be rocket fuel for the maize. Check out agphd brothers Brian and Darren. They have an app to tell you what removal level from the field for each crop.
 

teslacoils

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Here is a link to the guidance for *forage* maize in the uk. Do you know your soil pH? I'm thinking intense rainfall and potash are going to be limiting. How many hectares? Would it be possible to apply a mulch after removing those weeds to protect the soil? Is harvest done by machine?
 

Flatlander

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Our Soil P is about 30kg , but very low on K, like 5kg....we plan to take out the weeds by using selective herbicide convey...on seeding rate, i agree with you...read some research about how it should go up to 90-100k population per hectare, but not sure about adding more ferts and our limited tropical sun shine effective hours at 6-8 hours( though we have 12 hours day light, with plenty clouds and rain at least once a week...
With you low K level you’ll be struggling to get a crop to its full potential. With 12 hours of daytime and only 6-8 hours of actual sunlight I’d be uncomforable with that high of a seed rate,with weaker stems and low initial Fertility I’d start with 75000 max And try 20 inch rows to soak up as much solar radiation as possible.how are you harvesting the maize as it will determine row spacing
 

Westin

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Here is a link to the guidance for *forage* maize in the uk. Do you know your soil pH? I'm thinking intense rainfall and potash are going to be limiting. How many hectares? Would it be possible to apply a mulch after removing those weeds to protect the soil? Is harvest done by machine?

Farm is hilly with some 45 degree slope about 20 hectares...only hoe by mini tiller, four wheel tractor can not work there because no road access...only small path for motorbike...my soil pH is 6,5...Harvest only possible by manpower manual labour
 

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Westin

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With you low K level you’ll be struggling to get a crop to its full potential. With 12 hours of daytime and only 6-8 hours of actual sunlight I’d be uncomforable with that high of a seed rate,with weaker stems and low initial Fertility I’d start with 75000 max And try 20 inch rows to soak up as much solar radiation as possible.how are you harvesting the maize as it will determine row spacing
Dully Noted, thanx
 

teslacoils

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Wow so hilly. I imagined it would be terraced. It's quite a large farm.

I think I would increase the potash. Perhaps consider ways to protect the soil from the big rains using a mulch?

You could take some samples of the leaf while growing to see if it shows any imbalances
 

Westin

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Honestly i only managed to terrace two hectares, which was painstakingly done using 40 manual labour over 30 days....i have given up for the rest, maybe next season when i have time and money....🤣😂🤣😂
Leaf growth area and colour look good to me...infact i worry too much vegetatif growth Will hinder the grain filling...tell me what do you think
 

Flatlander

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Honestly i only managed to terrace two hectares, which was painstakingly done using 40 manual labour over 30 days....i have given up for the rest, maybe next season when i have time and money....🤣😂🤣😂
Leaf growth area and colour look good to me...infact i worry too much vegetatif growth Will hinder the grain filling...tell me what do you think
Maize will need that vegetaif growth to soak up enough sun to fill the grain. This is where plant population will become critical. Too high and cobs will be small. Too low and each plant will throw out a second cob which will rob the main one at least it does here but our season is barely long enough. Maize planted accurately and emerging at the same time will work best but a late growing plant is just a seed and won’t produce. The americans work painstakingly hard to create the perfect stand of plants and baby the crop from day one but some of the crops are beyond belief. In the warmer areas with enough moisture cobs are the size of your forearm. Much to learn on growing maize myself but a great crop to grow.
 

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