Need nroso points quickly

[Brisel]

I reckon assurance cost me near 5k last year, GTAS and RT membership fees, and testing of machines, subscriptions to grain testing network, weighbridge calibrations, MOt's, training, staff to shows, NORSO memberships and a day being assessed

this is before I factor any admin time in

I'll play devil's advocate here. If you didn't have FA for both schemes, would you never do any CPD for your staff? Never test any equipment to see if it was working properly? Welcome visits by HMRC, Environmental Health, Trading Standards and all the other quangos that currently leave us alone because the farming industry has our own audit scheme?

 

[Clive]

I'll play devil's advocate here. If you didn't have FA for both schemes, would you never do any CPD for your staff? Never test any equipment to see if it was working properly? Welcome visits by HMRC, Environmental Health, Trading Standards and all the other quangos that currently leave us alone because the farming industry has our own audit scheme?

yes of course I would make sure my equipment was working accurately and the operators knew what they were doing. the job you do is only as good as the kit you use and the guys driving it

I don't need a sticker that no one cares about to tell me that

 

[Brisel]

So, not the full £5k/year + your time. I'm no fan of FA the same as you but it's not all bad. I've never had to work to keep my NRoSO points up - by the time I've hauled in my annual 50 BASIS points the NRoSO is a doddle.

 

[David.]

see below and follow the link, the detail gets passed to NROSO who do the allocation yes, only available for your current year and you can only apply once per year. You must be an "active" TFF member - ie 5 posts or more per year

Ok, thanks, not filled with confidence then, because I applied before, when Tff points first became available, and they are not on my statement...

 

[Clive]

So, not the full £5k/year + your time. I'm no fan of FA the same as you but it's not all bad. I've never had to work to keep my NRoSO points up - by the time I've hauled in my annual 50 BASIS points the NRoSO is a doddle.

I've said many times I don't object to doing things to a high standard. What I object to with RT is the protection racket nature like nature of the scheme and its complete failure to add any kind of premium to our assured produce over and beyond imported grain. I also don't feel that the NFU should be representing growers re RT when they have massive vested interest in the scheme

I object to sending operators on training days where they know more than the trainers (its happened a few times) That is no more than an excuse to make money out of us all. Sending them on training days where they get to learn is a very different thing but so far in my experience a rare occurrence !

and I also object to the way it has turned many honest farmers into liars, it means nothing and we all know that .................... unfortunately so does the consumer it seems

doing the job to high enough standard is no problem though

 

[Brisel]

I frequently learn more from the other candidates on the training course than I will from the person stood at the front of the room. It depends on your attitude really. The issue of no premium paid for RT stems from that fact that we do not have enough co-operative spirit to collectively tell them to shove it so we end up footing the bill for every new perceived idea to make the food chain safer while big firms like 3 Sisters can get away with far more serious food safety breaches.

 

[Clive]

I frequently learn more from the other candidates on the training course than I will from the person stood at the front of the room. It depends on your attitude really. The issue of no premium paid for RT stems from that fact that we do not have enough co-operative spirit to collectively tell them to shove it so we end up footing the bill for every new perceived idea to make the food chain safer while big firms like 3 Sisters can get away with far more serious food safety breaches.

unfortunately you are right about the cooperative spirit. no grower of any size would dare to tell RT to stick it - thats why I feel its akin to a protection racket

My approach has been to cancel my NFU sub, they created this mess / layer of extra cost and are doing nothing positive about it that I can see, I can cancel my NFU membership without consequence to my business directly unlike cancelling my RT sub. The NFU are therefore are paying for the RT scheme rather ironically ! Cancelling my sub was the only vote as an individual I have and I know others that have taken the same approach. Anyone who is not happy re RT but dare not leave should do the same IMO until the message gets through

 

[tullah]

Clive, a very coherent post. That's the sole reason I am not an NFU member so they've forgone my annual sub. Totally agree the only way left to protest is to leave the Nfu which is in cahoots with RT. We sheep are all stupidly falling for it like we queue to pay our taxes.

 

[MattR]

The fw academy seems to be no more - in place of it there seems to be this "Know How" thing - is it possible to get cpd points from that? I can't see any links for NRoSO, Basis etc points on it. Need 4 in the next couple weeks

 

[DRC]

The fw academy seems to be no more - in place of it there seems to be this "Know How" thing - is it possible to get cpd points from that? I can't see any links for NRoSO, Basis etc points on it. Need 4 in the next couple weeks

you can get 2 points from subscribing to Potash News.

 

[bobk]

you can get 2 points from subscribing to Potash News.

Not giving you 2 likes .

 

[DRC]

Not giving you 2 likes .

did i say that before?
Think i'm loosing my marbles.

 

[Brisel]

Signing up to Fera Cropmonitor for pest alerts is worth a couple of points. Likewise mailings from Syngenta, Bayer, many other merchants. I get loads from my NIAB TAG membership too.

 

[MattR]

Thanks for the replies

 

[Brisel]

Ask you agronomist too - crop walking with them gets you points.

 

[Dogdayz]

Word of warning ...they do not accept points gained after deadline !I was recently suspended from NRoSo as I was about 12 points short ...luckily I had enough in hand from 3 yrs m.o.ts and agronomist reports otherwise I would've been kicked off for a year with the subsequent consequences of no ACCS . I will now make sure I have enough ...easy way is to do online quizzes on Farmers weekly site ...2 points per quiz ...takes a little time but the answers are all there ..Good luck