Neighbour does our grain hauling???

[Derky]

Agree rates and then record accordingly then invoice each other. More simple and fair.

 

[bravheart]

Weight through combine = weight at central store, or are you tipping and reloading, end result should still match.

 

[Clive]

several years ago now myself and @warksfarmer had a agreement (handshake) to work with each other - Lee did cultivation and drilling and we did everything else , we both had a open book re costs and charged each other cost plus 20%

it worked well for us both and we all knew where we stood, as we took on more land or dropped bits of FBT etc the costs went up and down but we were both always making our margin on what contracting work we did for each other

 

[warksfarmer]

We've been 'working with / sharing' equipment and staff for about 20 years. If you don't trust the person from the start it's a waste of time. You need to treat his farm as your own and he treats yours as his own. If you don't do this your wasting your time I'm afraid.
What you should do is sit down and work out all the costs openly and then add an agreed profit margin on top which will still be well under contracting rates, then just invoice each other. Or buy the equipment together with a written agreement detailing percentage splits.

 

[Goweresque]

The OP sounds rather like me, in that I distrust people in general until they have proved themselves to be honest rather than the other way around, so I doubt its a specific distrust of his neighbour, more a general distrust of human nature - given half a chance many people will take the P, and one can never be that sure exactly who will and who won't until you know them well.

So if you don't know your neighbour that well, well enough to have built up a picture of his personal character, then don't get involved in a partnership that would involve a great deal of mutual trust that the other wasn't tilting the table in his favour.

 

[fudge]

Why not hire the equipment between the two businesses? If you work successfully trust will quickly build up, if not the arrangement is easy to dissolve.

 

[DieselRob]

I think in those circumstances you should pay and be paid, as Clive and Lee say work out the costs together and add in a profit margin, you both know where you stand and there's no quibbling then.

As for the odd load of grain disappearing then all you need is the combine driver to keep a tally of trailer loads which leave the field and correspond that to weighbridge tickets at store, personally if I was the other neighbour reading this thread I'd be a little offended that you'd think I'd pinch a trailer load of wheat

 

[DRC]

There was a case, allegedly, of someone stealing a few loads of spuds from one of the big growers around here.They employed so many lads with their own tractor and trailer that no one questioned the extra trailer running alongside the harvester.

 

[bravheart]

Read something similar, probably on here, wheat out of a shed, 20 loads to be moved by sub contractor, last lorry appears in to be told 20 loads already lifted, one of the loads had been halfinched, no one noticed because all the subs used, no contractor livery.

 

[spikeislander]

I cant make carting at much under £35/HR stack up.
That's what i charge a man tractor and trailer out at?

 

[spikeislander]

Bloke wants £10 plus to sit on seat... Depreciation of a decent tractor on road work got to be £10 plus easy , trailer wth tyres and puncture risk must be a fiver only leaving 6-7 quid for profit?

 

[spikeislander]

And diesel

 

[Cowcalf]

if it works for both of you just get on with it, waste of time looking ar all these figures

 

[JCfarmer]

I am not at all happy that you have decided to post this question so publicly on a farming forum questioning my integrity to boot Rabbit Wolverine! More like a vibrating Roger Rabbit! You can shove it where the sun don't shine!





















































Sorry couldn't resist. Go for it sounds ideal, as said get the costings right and charge each other fairly. Who ever has the larger bill makes up the difference.

 

[Rabbit Wolverine]

I am not at all happy that you have decided to post this question so publicly on a farming forum questioning my integrity to boot Rabbit Wolverine! More like a vibrating Roger Rabbit! You can shove it where the sun don't shine!





















































Sorry couldn't resist. Go for it sounds ideal, as said get the costings right and charge each other fairly. Who ever has the larger bill makes up the difference.

 

[ollie989898]

I cant make carting at much under £35/HR stack up.
That's what i charge a man tractor and trailer out at?

I can sell you a particularly broken calculator if you want. They seem very common around much of the UK.

Same sort of folk rely on the accountant to tell them on April 1st if they have made any money or not.

 

[Andrew K]

I cant make carting at much under £35/HR stack up.
That's what i charge a man tractor and trailer out at?

I charge £50/hr for man ,tractor,trailer, fuel.It needs to be that to leave your own farm during harvest IMO.