Neighbour Wanting Access.

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
The chap probably doesn’t realise how it works and thinks it’s straight forward and free on someone else’s ground, or hoping to drop a pipe in on top of the duct before backfill, my guess is he hasn’t even spoken with the phone company yet, probably just discussed it over a pint in the local with a plant contractor as a quick fast buck job, maybe it was @Kevtherev!?
O yer we know the types don't you worry .
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The only positive I see here if he becomes a major cu next Tuesday you can always catch the mole plough on the fibre cable

Then you would be liable for the repair. Once / if easement in place you have a duty of care. You know it's location and depth. That's what they pay for.

Speak to a agent. There are standard easements and reasonable fees. If you like it say yes, otherwise say no.
 
If it was me, I would tell him that it's okay for the utilities provider to make contact and arrange for an easement. That way he gets his utilities but no personal access to your property. In future, all dealings with the easement would be with the utility company, not on a personal level with him or his missus. If she's fecking about with the hedge now, what will happen when she gets an easement?
 

D14

Member
Aye-up,

I have a neighbour, alright but it’s a bit prickly with his wife on account she thinks it’s alright to blatantly cut my hedge whenever she feels like it. They bought a big property up the private lane past our land


He wants to put in a new water pipe and BT cable ducting (I presume to get better internet) with a trenching machine. He’s stated he will make good any damage to the field.

It’s permanent grass, distance of about 200m

Anything to ring alarm bells?

Cheers, Pete.

Say no. He can dig it in up his drive then there’s no easement issues down the line.
 

Smith31

Member
Get an easement drawn up, with your neighbour being responsible for paying all legal fees and taking responsibility for all future repairs. Ask for a healthy figure for yourself and enjoy the money.

We will be dead soon, take the money and enjoy it. There's no risk to you if the easement is professionally worded and in your favour, millions of such agreements exist.

We have one with a neighbour, never been a problem. Once the services are laid they are forgotten about after a week or so.
 

Fendt516profi

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
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Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Get an easement drawn up, with your neighbour being responsible for paying all legal fees and taking responsibility for all future repairs. Ask for a healthy figure for yourself and enjoy the money.

We will be dead soon, take the money and enjoy it. There's no risk to you if the easement is professionally worded and in your favour, millions of such agreements exist.

We have one with a neighbour, never been a problem. Once the services are laid they are forgotten about after a week or so.

The trouble with legal agreements is what happens when someone refuses to abide by it, then what do you do? Its all very well having a document that says Party A must do X, Y and Z, what can Party B do if they don't? The answer involves our learned friends, which as we all know is the short route to losing a lot of money and years of your life.

I never like legal agreements where the self interests of the parties are not aligned and one party has agreed to do all manner of things that his true self interest would make him want not to do. Because chances are somewhere down the line, self interest will reassert itself, and then there will be a big dispute which can only be settled by resorting to law.

In short just because someone signs a document agreeing all sorts of things, is no guarantee he'll do them, especially in the long run, or indeed another person who takes on the agreement will abide by it either, as an easement goes with the property.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Any suggestion on the amount to ask for?!
If no other way then you can ransom .
Your legal fees ,his and agents fees going to around 2k mark plus disturbances, reinstate and monitor 1 growing season got to be 5k min but if arable land more plus weather issues etc so up to you really.
What added value to his property will it enhance?
How does he get supply at moment?
 
At the moment there is a water supply pipe under the lane, which is very narrow and would really need to be closed to dig it up. It’s a dead end with his property at the far end, past mine and a few others (no other housesbut it’s only our field he would want to go through to get to his own fields.

There’s nothing wrong with the water supply except it only goes to his place and then branches off to several privately owned paddocks including mine. We all have a private meter which he is free to read whenever he likes. We barely use a drop and he doesn’t charge us even though we ask him to accept payment. We’ve given them half a lamb occasionally.

I think the water pipe is a smokescreen because there’s no problem with it. He really wants to lay fibre optic I think and is using the excuse that he will improve water supply as a bonus.

We used to rent a field off him but it was just hassle so didn’t renew it. His wife cuts our hedge whenever she likes because she insists it damages her car. It’s all nonsense, it’s cut every year and not one single other person has an issue with it. The potholes in the lane (which they own and are entirely responsible for the costs of upkeep for) are the problem. She drives around them and brushes the hedge.

It’s got a bit silly over the years, they’re very petty people. If I was to type out all the nonsense they have caused for other lane users I would be here all night.

I think I’m mostly inclined to tell him politely to sling his hook and not to bother me with it again. I’ve an idea he thinks I’m a bit of a pushover and will just lie down and let him go ahead. I don’t want to be as petty as they are and would like to help him but am quite sure there may be trouble ahead!

He barely speaks and won’t even acknowledge me some days so I might have known there would be a reason for the very pleasant 20 minute chat we had three weeks ago!!
 

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