New Chaser bin anyone, what would you pull it with ?

[Chae1]

Between a roadtrain, 100t motherbin, 30t chaserbin and combine. How many tons can you have on wheels at 1 time, everything full.

 

[Farmer Roy]

do the truck drivers start and stop them when filling or is there an extra person needed to work it?

depends on who the trucks are & also the individual farms OH & S policies.
In my own example, at harvest, the trucks are usually supplied by my harvesting contractor, who has been working with me for 30 years & we have a very close relationship. So they just load & unload themselves. Generally, I end up driving the truck or one of the trucks myself anyway, unless I’m on the chaser bin

If I have other freight companies carting ( which would only be if they are carting direct to a buyer or end user ) then I will always be there to load, so the truck drivers only responsibility ( including workplace health & safety ) is his truck & ensuring his weights are legal, - which is vital for any road or highway work . . .

 

[Farmer Roy]

Between a roadtrain, 100t motherbin, 30t chaserbin and combine. How many tons can you have on wheels at 1 time, everything full.

Road trains aren’t legal here, we are just to the eastern edge of their zone. I don’t know their exact weight restrictions, but a single is about 26 tonne, so I suppose 2 trailers are 50 t & 3 are 75 t ? . There are very strict guidelines about where different combinations are allowed to operate ( on the roads, legally. On your own land you can do what you like ). Here, we are restricted to B Doubles ( which are 2 trailers, but a different configuration to trains ) which are legal at about 40 t, singles at about 26 t, or a truck & dog ( a rigid tipper towing a dog trailer ) at about 30 t. Just west of here, trains are limited to 2 trailers. Further west, they can run 3. It all depends where you are & what roads you are running on. Most on farm cartage here would be by a single, as they are the most versatile & easy to reverse up to augers etc

so, to answer your question.
Road train with 2 trailers 50t
Chaser bin 30t
Mother bin 110t
Combine say 8t

198 t

In my own situation, we generally like to knock off with everything full, so the trucks can start moving grain first thing in the morning while the header is servicing, fuelling up, waiting for moisture to drop etc etc

so, for me ( back in the days when I actually used to grow grain. Been 3 missed years now ), we could have grain on wheels of
Mother bin 80 t
Chaser bin 30t
1 or 2 trucks. Anywhere from 20 - 35 t per truck ( carting to my own storage, so not worried about legal loads, just fill them up )
Header 8t

so, say 150 t or so ?



my 13” x 90’ auger will pump around 200 t / hour, depending on the grain type & the angle it’s running at . . .

 

[JCfarmer]

Back in the mid 90s I was in Aus harvesting. 30ft cut on a 1680 Axial Flow, remember getting picked up by the farmers wife from a town called Kalannie one morning after not being in Aus for more than 2 weeks. It was pessing down with rain there. Drove 50 miles to the farm to where the farmer had started combining. We pulled up and he was just emptying into the bin, handy as I took note how far he was away with the header to be able to empty into the small opening at the top.
I had never driven a combine before but said I had and he took me for a run and back to the bin. Bang on I was with the unloading auger!( probably more luck than judgement)
Anyway it was very similar to one of these with wire cable and ratchet to lift it onto its wheels to move empty.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Back in the mid 90s I was in Aus harvesting. 30ft cut on a 1680 Axial Flow, remember getting picked up by the farmers wife from a town called Kalannie one morning after not being in Aus for more than 2 weeks. It was pessing down with rain there. Drove 50 miles to the farm to where the farmer had started combining. We pulled up and he was just emptying into the bin, handy as I took note how far he was away with the header to be able to empty into the small opening at the top.
I had never driven a combine before but said I had and he took me for a run and back to the bin. Bang on I was with the unloading auger!( probably more luck than judgement)
Anyway it was very similar to one of these with wire cable and ratchet to lift it onto its wheels to move empty.View attachment 854535

haha - I did a harvest near Kalannie also, but in the late 80’s, so I know exactly what that country is like
I think we averaged 1/2 t per acre over 16,000 acres ?
A neighbour had an Allis Chalmers N7 Gleaner - they WERE the shiz in the day, BIG capacity machines - who was always having rear axle problems as he had to travel too fast to keep it full of straw . . . IH Axial Flow used to eventually rattle themselves to pieces as the separators were effectively running empty compared to what they were designed for. I think 30’ fronts were as big as they got, back then . . .
yeah, those smaller round bins where popular, especially in lower yielding areas ( as you didn’t have to move them often ). They were always around that 25t mark, so roughly 1 would fill a truck.
a bit painful to move in higher yielding areas or if you have B Doubles or road trains to load
They are a lot cheaper than the big mother bins ( obviously ), but no where as convenient or user friendly
My neighbour, ( who has now retired & I lease his farm ) bought 1 at first, then ended up with 4 of them. TBH, the harvesting contractors & trucks ( the same ones I used. I generally ended up helping them either on the chaser bin or in a truck, anyway ) hated them. They aren’t so bad in a header when you are only putting in 8 t at a time, but with a chaser bin, you couldn’t put the full load through the one opening, you would need to move at least once or twice to a different opening to fill it. Anyway, after seeing my 80 t Vennings in action & get frustrated with constantly trying to empty & move the round bins ( Parkinson’s disease was starting to hit him then ), he bought an 80 t Parkes bin. Much better. He used the little round bins as temporary seed or fertiliser storage, for which they were brilliant. Unfortunately, when he retired I wasn’t in a position to buy any of them or the Parkes bin

 

[Farmer Roy]

The worst thing about Toms ( my neighbour ) round bins was you had to put an auger under them, they didn’t have an attached auger like yours ( that made them cheaper ). If I was involved I just took down my tractor & grain vac, made it much easier.
Dragging a 10” auger around on uneven black soil was just all too much for any of us, let alone someone with Parkinson’s

 

[Farmer Roy]

this trailer, chockas, holds about 35 tonne - definitely not legal for road work

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[Farmer Roy]

for the record, all these pics are at home.
the only gear in the pics that is mine is the Vennings, the auger & the red & blue tractors.
Trucks, chaser bins, JD tractor & the headers ( ffs - it doesn't seem natural calling them a "combine". That is what we call a box drill here ) all belong to Glen & Kevin ( my harvest contractors ), although I have driven them all at times & my usual job when they are here is either chaser bin or truck

 

[Farmer Roy]

also for the record, those trucks ( especially the 2 Mercs ) are quite old, even the white Freightliner would be over 20 yrs old.
the white chaser bin is over 25 yrs old
the blue Finch chaser bin would be getting close to 20
my Vennings is now 22
the JD tractor is a 8400
the JD headers ( combines ) are not the current model . . .
the newest thing in those pics would be the little T6010

 

[Sid]

this trailer, chockas, holds about 35 tonne - definitely not legal for road work

I remember those trucks with the pivot on the trailer. Makes the trailer lighter to gain more payload.
Saw one first down in the SA Vic border whilst working on a dairy farm. They have brought grain down from northern SA.

Do you run on the same lines with the chaser bin to reduce compaction?

 

[holywell farmer]

That's impressive