New Chinese loaders & telehandlers?

[Dukes Fit]

The quality of the steel is the difference. Chinese steel is absolute dog sh1t.

The Chinese were pioneers of steel manufacturing, they can produce excellent quality steel ..... when they want to.

But it’s cheaper and faster to produce dog sh1t

 

[Ukjay]

Oh No I'm Not.
The thing to watch out for is that when a western company goes bankrupt or go out of business China is buying up the trade names so much of what you think is a branded product in now made in China.

But does it contain chinesium parts?

 

[Pistonbroke]

I priced a kverneland rake camtrack gearbox at£1900. Looked on comer website and there was one that looked the same so I googled the model number and got a link to a Chinese firm doing " equivalent to comer xxxx". $250(that's dollars) including shipping but minimum order of ten units

 

[Tim Howard]

But does it contain chinesium parts?

No smart phone hear, they wouldn't last me 5 minutes in the workshop.
Yes we know most things have parts in from China but if you buy well known makes or from a reputable company then at least they will stand buy it, the Chinese also know they will lose the contract if there supplier has too many problems. If buying parts or machines direct then you are on your own and they know it even trading standards can't help. CE Chinese Excrement.

 

[Ukjay]

No smart phone hear, they wouldn't last me 5 minutes in the workshop.
Yes we know most things have parts in from China but if you buy well known makes or from a reputable company then at least they will stand buy it, the Chinese also know they will lose the contract if there supplier has too many problems. If buying parts or machines direct then you are on your own and they know it even trading standards can't help. CE Chinese Excrement.

Maybe, maybe not.. Also - who makes your laptop / desktop?

I think China sometimes get a bit of a bum deal for some things - especially when a lot of the cheap crap is actually driven via external market pressure wanting it to be the cheapest they can source it to maximise their own profits (Blind Eye to ethics etc for their greater good).

There are a lot of highly skilled people in that country, yet due to the ongoing race to the bottom on price sourcing, they take the whole wrap, when you could lay a some of the blame for how things pan out at our own feet.

Would be funny to watch what would happen if China simply turned around and said 'FO', from this moment forth - we will only supply higher quality goods, and at realistic costs for better welfare etc for our people (Not going to happen - but would be interesting to see the net result), as I bet many of the ones knocking the cheap crap would be the first winging in the queue stating how wrong they are as the cheap sh!t is gone..

Cake and eating it comes to mind quite often, whilst at the same time openly trying to defer the blame to others in a mitigation kind of tactic...

 

[8100]

One lad in the Firework trade ended up with a couple of tons of green fountains only in his November order .They go to China and watch their order get loaded into the containers now

 

[betweenthelines]

Bought a Pangolin materials handler about 6 months ago-looks the part but coughs a bit with a decent load, air intake needs regular attention.

Despite that, I think they'll catch on and everyone will have one in a few months time.

 

[br jones]

Last time it was a false allegation that JCB engines were all built in China, as to their transmissions, if they come from China what does the transmission factory at Wrexham do ?

48 people work at the wrexham storage facility .the engines were being made in india ,and jcb then bought the engine factory,so the wrexham place takes them out the box nowt else

 

[stevedave]

I try my best to avoid Chinese manufacturing as much as I can. We recently had problems with the weigh cell on a new lamb crate no one could get to the bottom of it until the manufacturer found out their supplier was getting the parts from china they have now insisted on no parts from China and there are no more problems. Why we would want to give a leg up to this devious country is anyone guess. We in the west should not be helping them out look at the way they lied about covid and the human and animal rights issues. They should be treated with the same suspition as North Korea.

 

[br jones]

It'll be the last attachment I buy from Alö if they dont offer any support. I have around 10 of theirs in total. Heard Eastern Attachments are well made and UK fabricated... anyone have experience of them?

So you hot a stancheon and bent it a bit ,and its the attachments fault ?

 

[tullah]

And they say racism isnt prevalent in uk agriculture.....

Maybe you are not aware of the violation of human rights in that country.

 

[simon-0116]

It'll be the last attachment I buy from Alö if they dont offer any support. I have around 10 of theirs in total. Heard Eastern Attachments are well made and UK fabricated... anyone have experience of them?

Don't no about buckets but there tipping skips are very well made,

 

[Jon Boy]

Might explain why my new Quicke loader bucket buckled when it clipped a stachion on it's second outing! Brackets wont align with the headstock. Waiting to hear back from the rep!!View attachment 893345

You have to love that ,it pretty much sums up the mentality of a large proportion of farmers. " I drove into a stanchion with my new bucket and now its bent and wont fit but not my fault it's the buckets fault "

 

[highland-man]

My impression of Chinese stuff was always that while yes , there is loads of bottom-end Trash available so is the absolute top-end Best of stuff. They are literally capable of producing anything to any quality. It’s (just like any other country) finding a reputable firm to deal with and finding the cost vs quality balance you want and they produce it.
if folk didnt buy the £5 spanner sets by the thousands then they wouldn’t bother making them.

 

[Stock]

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...gal-battle-over-chinese-copycat-car-1.3835181
And I believe JCB have similar issues ...............................................................

 

[ACEngineering]

It'll be the last attachment I buy from Alö if they dont offer any support. I have around 10 of theirs in total. Heard Eastern Attachments are well made and UK fabricated... anyone have experience of them?

Eastern attachments build the xform buckets and stuff for cherry products and JCB.
So yes they are decent you wont deal direct though will have to buy via JCB or cherry products.