New Defender Commercial

[Cowabunga]

Had a deposit down on one for about 4 years,went to dealers last June to look at a 90 commercial and decided then that I wanted my deposit back. Couldn’t see the justification of spending nearly 60k on one time it was specced up

Exactly the same here, although I did go to the UK LR Experience pre-launch event and saw the 110 at the dealer some months before production versions came off the line. I wasn't particularly excited by it and what with the uncertainty of Covid, I cancelled and had my deposit back. I've no regrets, if only because the four cylinder launch engine seems to have been discontinued, at least for now. I thought the engine perfectly adequate when I drove a production one though.

 

[D14]

90HT is more comparable in price with a double cab pickup, I have had mine two weeks now and put just over 1000 miles on it and love it, not even comparable to a pickup for driving!

The only thing with the 90 is you don't get air suspension and load space is limited, but unlike a pickup, the load space is much more useful as everything you put in there stays dry and isn't susceptible to being stolen!

No it’s not because a 90 has 2 seats. A double cab pickup has 5 seats.

 

[HolzKopf]

I think it's quite simple. We know what we want and why we need it - and how much that purchase is worth to us. Once it's beyond that number by a country mile, the criteria for purchase have no value either. The Defender isn't on our bucket list

We currently run a D4 commercial, one of the last of the line and tbh we're more precious with it than any other 'truck' we've had. Often I'll leave it in the yard and take the pickup when in years gone by, the job I'm going to do would have seen me in our Defender(s) or Troopers without a second thought.

HK

 

[ARW]

Why would you want one?

 

[ollandroverman]

I bet we're not the only ones.
HCPU has been the weapon of choice in my circles for an age.
And instead of ironing wrinkles, the muppets have chucked it out and replaced it with a 4x4 techno designer trainer.
I'm out.

(have had similar thoughts about Toyotas I saw in oz, and on every dusty war torn 3rd world TV news flash....albeit without the mounted 'belt fed'.)

Im led to believe there is now more transvestites in the UK than farmers. No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle for the tiny percentage of the population that we are.

 

[Chae1]

I think they look cool. I would like 1.

Thought they looked hideous initially. But they have grown on me. Same happened with D5.

Only problem is I can't afford either.

 

[Richard Smyth]

Ah, can’t beat the voice of experience. Am I thinking of the wrong model? Which is the single cab swb model that often has the flat rear pick up platform? Is that the 79 series?

never seen a short wheel base model. They are all long whether single cab tray or dual cab or troop carrier same chassis I believe. Lots like them but to live with every day I can’t stand them. My wife drives it

 

[hally]

Im led to believe there is now more transvestites in the UK than farmers. No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle for the tiny percentage of the population that we are.

Of course some people could be both. But i suspect that is a real minority

 

[Drillman]

I would quite like one...




for the wife to do school runs in and as a going out motor,

Pickup does fine as farm truck/ tug boat

 

[Paddington]

Been watching Powerfuluk's videos on fitting accessories to a 110, they do seem very intricate to work on compared to the old Defender. Fitting a roof rack took several hours, comprising over 50 parts, as you have to fir roof bars first and cost over £1K for the bits.

 

[PSQ]

Im led to believe there is now more transvestites in the UK than farmers. No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle for the tiny percentage of the population that we are.

That explains the Evoque convertible.

 

[barleybasher]

Has someone done a kit to fit the rear seats back in yet?

Like the many Disco's that were converted?

The Disco 4 was pretty amazing for the money as a commercial, that luxury ride and smooth running that a 4 cab could never really match.

On another note, I do find myself quite interested in an Ineos Grenadier. Both that and the defender offer some nice 6 cylinder engines.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

May as well get a Discovery 5 Commercial for £50K + VAT, surely that makes more sense?

 

[Hilly]

I’d like one but I can’t afford to buy one, and if I could I think I’d have something more boring but more sensible to spend it on.

 

[barleybasher]

May as well get a Discovery 5 Commercial for £50K + VAT, surely that makes more sense?

Bloody good point, didn't know it was still offered, presumed the defender had taken it's place...

 

[nosmokenopoke]

Am I missing something? I’ve specced a Defender commercial S with the stuff you really want in a car, and to match the spec of a Wildtrack Ranger. Tow bar, metallic paint, mudflaps, 3 seats in the front, alloy wheels. And that’s about it, not gone too mad with it. It’s come out at £62,000+VAT! I’m really keen for one so was hoping there would be some sort of 25% discount available but no, there’s a few hundred quid at most. No NFU/ Anglia farmers/ dealer discounts to be had.

Are they completely bonkers? I could literally buy TWO Ford Ranger Wildtracks with NFU discount with a 10 speed box, all the spec to match, AND have £4,000 change. I’m sure it’s a more advanced vehicle but I cannot see where they’re coming from with these prices. They must be aiming them more at London Plumbers than us humble farmers.

EDIT the 62k figure may include VAT- the website is unclear

Im sure the defender will be less reliable too
Part of the LR logo

 

[Cowabunga]

May as well get a Discovery 5 Commercial for £50K + VAT, surely that makes more sense?

By the time you have added a few essential extras, like a two speed transfer box, metallic paint, tow hitch and electrics, the price rises to £62500 inc VAT or £52,000 + VAT, presumably on the road.
Not exactly a bargain two seater commercial, or plaything.

 

[Hilly]

You keep saying they ain’t aimed a farmers so who is it aimed at ? Who else wants a commercial vehicle like that ?

 

[Robt]

You keep saying they ain’t aimed a farmers so who is it aimed at ? Who else wants a commercial vehicle like that ?

pretty much anyone running one as a company car to look cool! and save tax. Trades people like plumbers and sparkies etc ... take your pick

 

[mf7480]

You keep saying they ain’t aimed a farmers so who is it aimed at ? Who else wants a commercial vehicle like that ?

As mentioned above- trades. Self employed Plumbers and sparks are all on £250- £300/ day now with their van as their only cost.