New Defender - Land rover micro site

[M-J-G]

managed to sell a hell of a lot of them and there other sh1t discoverer 4 etc considering

D4 still the most common car in the car park at LAMMA and cereals etc by a long margin

I don't care, the defender is by a mile the worst vehicle I've ever driven and won't consider owning one.

 

[Daniel]

£40k for something to cart kids and farm crap about.

To be honest the upcoming transit hybrid would probably suit me far better, get the crew cab, 30 mile range, keep it charged on the farm solar panels. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/transit/105337/new-ford-transit-custom-phev-prototype-review

 

[ollie989898]

im not sure what you earn but mid 30's isn't cheap

if you want to spend more JLR will help you - 150k on a vougue L if you like ?

In all honesty I would not buy a LR product now- I believe there are better options. The Maserati is a prettier car than the LR product and Volvo would be the product for us as a family.

 

[Courier]

You can get a 2019 Jimny for well under £20k ........

Coil springs and a low emission 1.5 petrol engine.

 

[Courier]

In all honesty I would not buy a LR product now- I believe there are better options. The Maserati is a prettier car than the LR product and Volvo would be the product for us as a family.

Maserati = 50% depreciation per 1st year unless there has been a sea change.

 

[ollie989898]

Maserati = 50% depreciation per 1st year unless there has been a sea change.

If I was going to buy the Maser do you honestly believe I would give a cronk about the level of depreciation on it?

 

[Chae1]

You can get a 2019 Jimny for well under £20k ........

Coil springs and a low emission 1.5 petrol engine.

And?

You can get a new dacia duster for £9,925.

I wouldn't want to own either.

 

[Yale]

You mean it’s taken how many years to design......that.

I could have done it on the back of a fag packet.

 

[Martin Holden]

https://www.landrover.co.uk/defender/teaser-v2.html?mrasn=426594.543984&xtref=www.google.co.uk


still in camo but clearly not for much longer


own up then anyone brave enough on the forum of Japaneses pick-up lovers to admit to having one on order ??


Looks a bit disco 4 to me ............... which are pretty popular with farmers its fair to say. Maybe this is more of a family truck than a working vehicle ?

Come on Clive, you know you want one!!

 

[M-J-G]

You mean it’s taken how many years to design......that.

I could have done it on the back of a fag packet.

And they designed fcuk all for the 40 years before it, just kept producing a noisy heap of sh1t only suitable for those below 5ft or who don't mind an excessive sun tan on their right arm.

 

[JP1]

Fudge me, if its that cheap it will have its guts stripped out, the engine from a transit and no posh 8 speed gearbox....

Good !

Steering wheel. Manual 6 speed. SWB. Radio 4 . Towbar

 

[oldoaktree]

I don't care, the defender is by a mile the worst vehicle I've ever driven and won't consider owning one.

Driven plenty worse cars than Defender

 

[Cowabunga]

maybe a 90 and a 110 version ??


Land rover as making customers sign "no flipping" contacts I believe now - a friend who just had a new discovery was made to sign such an agreement just last week, stooped him selling to anyone but the dealer for 6 months

You must be kidding! The Discovery 5 is a particularly slow seller and hardly likely to command a short term premium. They expected that to happen with the Velar but that has been piling up at dealer's yards too. The Discovery Sport has been consistently outsold by 3:1 by the Volvo XC60, so LR had better be more realistic about Defender prospects or they will end up in the same position as Austin Rover or MG cars or whatever it ended up being called before the plug was pulled.
Most of their vehicles, specced up to compare with rivals up to £25,000 cheaper, are in the £50,000 to £100,000 price range, which is a vast cockup in my opinion, if only because many of their sales are cannibalised from themselves, not won from rivals. They peaked about five years ago and are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. Let's see if they have what it takes to crawl out of it using their renowned traction if not reliability.

 

[DRC]

@bobk reckons there’s 60 acres near him, full of unsold land rover products.

 

[Cowabunga]

You are having a laugh if you think the new Defender will be mid 30s. I bet the thing is near 50K with a few options. It will have the new ZF gearbox, heavens knows what engine and a very upmarket interior. It might look rugged but it will be engineered in the same way as the Discovery and be well away from anything like the original Defender.

It will be priced very near indeed to the Discovery 5 commercial and Discovery 5 passenger cars. That much is inevitable because it will share the platform and running gear with these. That means it is likely to cost between £40,000 and £60,000, depending on the model and equipment fitted. I doubt any version worth having will be less than £40,000 plus VAT, if applicable to a 'commercial' version. They will undoubtedly be offered with an average of £8000+ of optional extras fitted, especially in the early months. I priced a Disco5 commercial up recently with all the expected safety systems, tow packs etc, and the extras amounted to £12,000 on top of the basic vehicle. It gets a bit ridiculous when you compare JLR vehicles to rivals. However, it does depend very much on what you compare them with. A Disco5 is hellish expensive compared to a Hyundai Santa-Fe but excellent value compared to a Mercedes GLS or BMW X7

 

[Cowabunga]

I don't care, the defender is by a mile the worst vehicle I've ever driven and won't consider owning one.

Hmm… Are you one of the very few people in the world that have driven the forthcoming 'Defender'?

 

[Clive]

You must be kidding! The Discovery 5 is a particularly slow seller and hardly likely to command a short term premium. They expected that to happen with the Velar but that has been piling up at dealer's yards too. The Discovery Sport has been consistently outsold by 3:1 by the Volvo XC60, so LR had better be more realistic about Defender prospects or they will end up in the same position as Austin Rover or MG cars or whatever it ended up being called before the plug was pulled.
Most of their vehicles, specced up to compare with rivals up to £25,000 cheaper, are in the £50,000 to £100,000 price range, which is a vast cockup in my opinion, if only because many of their sales are cannibalised from themselves, not won from rivals. They peaked about five years ago and are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. Let's see if they have what it takes to crawl out of it using their renowned traction if not reliability.

Not kidding - that contract is real

I bet if you could get a new defender early you could make money on it - demand will be higher than supply regardless of list price and if it’s any good or not I bet you

 

[Clive]

Hmm… Are you one of the very few people in the world that have driven the forthcoming 'Defender'?

Have you ? You seen convinced it’s no good

I will reserve my judgement until I’ve seen it and driven it myself

 

[Clive]

It will be priced very near indeed to the Discovery 5 commercial and Discovery 5 passenger cars. That much is inevitable because it will share the platform and running gear with these. That means it is likely to cost between £40,000 and £60,000, depending on the model and equipment fitted. I doubt any version worth having will be less than £40,000 plus VAT, if applicable to a 'commercial' version. They will undoubtedly be offered with an average of £8000+ of optional extras fitted, especially in the early months. I priced a Disco5 commercial up recently with all the expected safety systems, tow packs etc, and the extras amounted to £12,000 on top of the basic vehicle. It gets a bit ridiculous when you compare JLR vehicles to rivals. However, it does depend very much on what you compare them with. A Disco5 is hellish expensive compared to a Hyundai Santa-Fe but excellent value compared to a Mercedes GLS or BMW X7

Inside info from JLR ? ............. or pure speculation ?

 

[Clive]

@bobk reckons there’s 60 acres near him, full of unsold land rover products.

Yes they are in deep problems right now

No surprise really when Diesel 4x4’s are quickly becoming things of the past