New diesel pump MF 6465 dreaded 1077 code :-(

[Lofty]

The 6420S in my avitar died couple of years ago. Just went out like a light, mid field. Didn't move a muscle for 3 days. Put a complete reman pump on it.
Posted this before, but always make me laugh!
Wesley know how to repair it!

 

[Lofty]

Here's the only pic I can find. Don't remember to much trouble with the timing but you can see that the drive hub looks just the same as yours. We just pinned the flywheel and the pump hub with suitable bolts and slipped it out. Don't quote me on this, but I think the fine tuning of the timing is done electronically inside the pump.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

tharts cool where about did you bolt flywheel, are the gaps at side just right for a bolt? looks like lock pin for pump it dead top from you pic.

you can see my final straw of hot wire straight from battery no fire just turn over but there is diesel coming out, exactly as described in the guide from bluechip as linked further back.

 

[Lofty]

I can't tell you about a locking pin on the Perkins. Maybe it's just a timing mark on the front pulley for No1 TDC. On the JD, there's a hole in the flywheel housing.

 

[Mursal]

Just lift the electronic head off and the speed sensor on the shaft as you lift it out.
Leave the mechanical part of the pump where it is.

Don't be going to all that trouble, we do the Transit's in place.
Need to get the memory wiper on the Ford's though (£20) for the immobilizer.

 

[leone75]

I have a brand new one if you need one part no 2644p502

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Pump was pretty easy to remove, (not like a car van etc) just lock in place 4 bolts front 4 on back plus injector pipes. The symptoms of diesels still getting through to injector but not at high enough pressure implies fault within the pump mechanically, and considering hours im happy to have it checked and replace and worn bits, smae with injectors its only £10 to get em tested.

Diesel bob is local ish and his vans this way tomoz so he collecting it with injectors, they all came out easy but no.1 left it to soak over night

Got some pics but phone went flat

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I have a brand new one if you need one part no 2644p502

how much

 

[leone75]

how much

£750+vat

 

[leone75]

£750+vat

I'll quote injectors if you need

 

[Farmer_Joe]

pm or put your number up, i will check part number on mine and give you a bell

 

[Cowabunga]

Almost all these Bosch pumps fail at between 4000 and 6000 hours, no matter what they are fitted to, as far as I can see.
When mine went, last year, the fault codes seemed to indicate a poor electrical connection but that was not it. My own pump was repaired and it was said, by Shorts the repairers, to be 'no fault found but replaced high pressure valve which was borderline'. It has worked perfectly since.

 

[Mursal]

So its not the electronic head, like on the Transit's?

 

[Rust]

Mine went twice . First time repaired. Second new pump. Both times electrical fault.

 

[Cowabunga]

So its not the electronic head, like on the Transit's?

Yes it will be. All Perkins T2 six cylinder engines fitted to MF tractors have them. Also fitted to some, not all, T2 Sisu engines and some non-common-rail J Deere series 20 as well.

 

[Mursal]

Yes, but you mentioned it was a mechanical fault, rather than electrical? Oh thinking about it, that high pressure valve might be soldered onto the electronic head.

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes, but you mentioned it was a mechanical fault, rather than electrical?

Despite the misleading fault codes, yes the problem was a mechanical one. In my limited experience, the majority of issues with these electronically managed pumps turn out to be mechanical wear or failure.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Almost all these Bosch pumps fail at between 4000 and 6000 hours, no matter what they are fitted to, as far as I can see.
When mine went, last year, the fault codes seemed to indicate a poor electrical connection but that was not it. My own pump was repaired and it was said, by Shorts the repairers, to be 'no fault found but replaced high pressure valve which was borderline'. It has worked perfectly since.

Thats honest of repairer, how much was it for just that repair?

took about 25 mins to get 5 injectors out and 3 hrs for no.1 what a c*nt, had to pull it out with a nut on top with slightly thicker washers each time it moved and spacers down side...

look like my pump has come slightly lose in the past, has worn pump and the plate (and pump), can anyone recommend some liquid metal repair item, it not bad but would be better perfectly flat for new pump. (Actually found a service bulliton about the pumps coming loose from perkins and advice for repair)

 

[J 1177]

Yes it will be. All Perkins T2 six cylinder engines fitted to MF tractors have them. Also fitted to some, not all, T2 Sisu engines and some non-common-rail J Deere series 20 as well.

Do the teir 3 perkys have them?

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Do the teir 3 perkys have them?

common rail i believe these were last of rotary pumps, amusingly the common rail pump is much better and much cheaper!