New drill grant

Matt77

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Mixed Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Maybe a daft question, can’t see the answer on Defra website, can you use a part exchange in the deal without causing a problem with the grant.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Maybe a daft question, can’t see the answer on Defra website, can you use a part exchange in the deal without causing a problem with the grant.

If you look back through the thread on that grant in Agricultural Matters, it’s said that you have to have the finances in place to pay for the purchase, so without p-ex or HP, etc.

Of course, you can always sell the old drill to the dealer in a separate deal, and take out a business loan instead of a machine specific finance agreement, just so long as the paper trail fits requirements…🤐
 

Matt77

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Mixed Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Many thanks all, I now understand the wording.
As regards to selling privately, I’ve a bad experience with that, probably wouldn’t happen again granted, but I thought the part ex value was very low and that I could do better, 3 years later I finally sold the machine for the same price as the part ex value, with a whole load of ball ache added in!!
 

Matt77

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Mixed Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Any ideas which makes of drill are eligible?
I know for example weaving sabre?
Is for example a horsch avatar eligible?
Cheers dh
Any direct drill without a cultivation element, so a disc drill like the avatar for sure, has to be able to handle cover crop trash/residue etc and a wide range of seeds
 

AlanT

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
My new maize drill can sow rape, sugarbeet, maize, soybeans, sunflowers etc. It has no cultivation parts, has disc coulters, can drill direct into stubble. Trash wouldn’t cause an issue either. Will that be enough for a grant? I doubt it!!
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
My new maize drill can sow rape, sugarbeet, maize, soybeans, sunflowers etc. It has no cultivation parts, has disc coulters, can drill direct into stubble. Trash wouldn’t cause an issue either. Will that be enough for a grant? I doubt it!!

If it can do everything that’s detailed in the grant spec, then I can’t see why not. The specific wording is:
“Direct drill for precision drilling of arable and cover crops, using either tines or discs to produce the seeding slot. To be eligible the drill must have a minimum drilling width of 2.9 m, must have no cultivation or seed bed preparation equipment in front of the seeding slot mechanism and the seed must be placed in the seeding slot. The drill must be able to drill through a fully established growing cover crop of at least 15 cm in height. Purchase must include seed hoppers. The drill must be able to drill the full range of arable and cover crops including cereals. The following are not eligible: Cultivators with over-seeders or broadcasters, minimum till drills, strip till drills, grassland over-seeders, and grassland broadcasters.”
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
If it can do everything that’s detailed in the grant spec, then I can’t see why not. The specific wording is:
“Direct drill for precision drilling of arable and cover crops, using either tines or discs to produce the seeding slot. To be eligible the drill must have a minimum drilling width of 2.9 m, must have no cultivation or seed bed preparation equipment in front of the seeding slot mechanism and the seed must be placed in the seeding slot. The drill must be able to drill through a fully established growing cover crop of at least 15 cm in height. Purchase must include seed hoppers. The drill must be able to drill the full range of arable and cover crops including cereals. The following are not eligible: Cultivators with over-seeders or broadcasters, minimum till drills, strip till drills, grassland over-seeders, and grassland broadcasters.”
The bit that'll be a problem will be the strip till bit possibly.

But I'd definitely ask for clarification, however if it's an existing drill you can't retrospectively claim.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
The bit that'll be a problem will be the strip till bit possibly.

But I'd definitely ask for clarification, however if it's an existing drill you can't retrospectively claim.

Very true, new purchases only.

Whatever the machine, I think I’d be wanting the words ‘direct drill’ or ‘suitable for direct drilling’ to appear somewhere on the invoice, just to clarify for those people that will seethe invoice and tick the approval box.;)
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Personally I would pay for it separately and get them to pay you for your own trade in separately. Any chance of confusion such as not having the exact price of the new drill on your bank statement will inevitably complicate your claim.
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
So would a Claydon qualify with its leading tine? I’d argue it would as it’s creating a slot for germination rather than cultivating. Just wondering!
Had an email or seen somewhere yesterday from claydon saying the drill is eligible for the grant with the front discs instead of the tines which I’m sure could be ordered and retro fitted.there was a link to the grand in the Advert
nick…
 

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