New farm house design

HatsOff

Member
Mixed Farmer
Might as well go the whole hog and have a panic room toošŸ¤£. Dont get carried away is my advice, no point building something you cannot afford to live in. Insulation is great until the house is to too hot to sleep in during the summer. A great many new houses are no good for anybody coming home dirty too, need a tradesmans entrance
Insulation slows heat transfer down, it doesn't create heat. In a well insulated house you need to do the reverse of what you do in winter. For example, you wouldn't keep a door open in winter letting the warm air out - so in summer during a heat wave, don't open a door and let the warm air in. Close curtains to lessen thermal gain, open windows at night to let cool air in only.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Insulation slows heat transfer down, it doesn't create heat. In a well insulated house you need to do the reverse of what you do in winter. For example, you wouldn't keep a door open in winter letting the warm air out - so in summer during a heat wave, don't open a door and let the warm air in. Close curtains to lessen thermal gain, open windows at night to let cool air in only.
Who wants to keep doors and windows shut in the summer with the curtains closed ffs, not farmers thats for sure
 

mo!

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Mixed Farmer
Location
York
Who wants to keep doors and windows shut in the summer with the curtains closed ffs, not farmers thats for sure
You design the problem out. South facing windows should have shading that blocks the high summer sun, but allows lower winter sun in. Closing the curtains has little effect as the sun has entered the room by then. Hot countries have been using shutters for centuries.
 

capfits

Member
Use copper piping throughout for plumbing and heating.
Plastic maybe quick and cheap until, micky and pals take a chew.
Lots of good ideas.
Solar gain
Working part of house
Linked inside outside spaces
Think about old age
Etc
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
What is a cloam oven? Surely everyone knows what they need for cooking? You're not going all tomahawk steaks and peanut oil on us are you?
Ha ha! It's a traditional clay oven that was once the complement to the cauldron. Possibly even in Somerset. Heated with vaggs of furze and blackthorn, and cooked the very best bread, pies, and pasties.
 

Speedstar

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Location
Scottish Borders
Want to build a new farm house , got all the relevant paper work in order so no problem there itā€™s just design etc which we are slightly struggling with , as always the case with farm buildings you wish you did something different but donā€™t want this to be the case with a new build and home for the rest part of our lifeā€™s , anyone built something lately for ideas ? Thanks
We built a new home a couple of years ago it is a bungalow , with solar thermal panels, ground source heating & solar electric panels , house is cheap the heat & run , only thing you need to watch out for is if you have a lot of glasss south facing get the right glass to keep the heat of the sun out, our glass is not & it is all the be changed to keep the heat out as in the summer the house gets very hot & a tint can not be fitted to our glass.
 
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if it fits with your location, think about where you will have patio i.e south facing? and how access to kitchen for BBQs etc
Never build a house facing south!!! šŸ™„It will make the house cold and dark. Also if there are hills if possible do not build on the south side or in the shadow of the hill, that will also increase winter heating costs especially if you also get Antarctic polar blasts.
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Never build a house facing south!!! šŸ™„It will make the house cold and dark. Also if there are hills if possible do not build on the south side or in the shadow of the hill, that will also increase winter heating costs especially if you also get Antarctic polar blasts.
Doesnā€™t it work the opposite on the other side of the world?
 

AJ123

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South east
Built my own 5 years ago, what Iā€™ve learnt:

Double the amount of insulation to get through building regs .

All the eco heating options

High pressure hot water is awesome

Plant room will need to be twice as big as you think

Cat 6 everywhere and a central data/ server room

Massive boot room

Borrow the money to do it better now, donā€™t skimp-you will regret it.

Do the outsides and the extras now or you still wonā€™t have done them in 5 years!

A mixer tap from Screwfix for Ā£30 is as if not more attractive and more reliable with a solid guarantee as a Ā£500 one from Italy which leaks and you canā€™t repair so end up replacing with the Screwfix one anyway.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Who wants to keep doors and windows shut in the summer with the curtains closed ffs, not farmers thats for sure
Me.
That is how you keep the house cool when it is too hot outside.
My missus on the other hand thinks it is best to open all the doors and windows to get the house as hot as possible during the day so you can't sleep at night.
 

Farmer Fin

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Build it square, south facing with big windows and lots of insulation, small windows on the north side. You should be able to live on the ground floor, wet room off the boot room with laundry next to it. Boiler in the garage, underfloor downstairs and maybe a log burner. If it is insulated right you won't need it. Cat 6 everywhere, twice as many 13A double sockets as you think. MVHR is a given. Corbelling rather than soffits will pay in the long run. Insulate, insulate, insulate.
Iā€™ve my boiler in my plant room. Means there is one room always hot which is good for drying cloths and with MVHR is not damp and the heat is used as well.
 

mo!

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
York
Iā€™ve my boiler in my plant room. Means there is one room always hot which is good for drying cloths and with MVHR is not damp and the heat is used as well.
Modern gas condensing boilers like the one I have produce very little heat into the room. I realise that most farms don't have mains gas.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Me.
That is how you keep the house cool when it is too hot outside.
My missus on the other hand thinks it is best to open all the doors and windows to get the house as hot as possible during the day so you can't sleep at night.
Give me an old stone farmhouse any day, warm in the winter and cool in the summer
 
build something in keeping with the area. Not a plain awful ugly box. Think of the access, wind, solar gain, outlook.

Porch for def.
Boot room
WC shower
Utility room
Built in storage (never enough)

external Doors opposite the wind
Windows inset (wind)
Good eaves overhang (protects walls)
high ceilings cant stand low ceilings min 230cm
Walk in pantry (vented)

Lots of tiled floors (long life)
Think of it working in older age.

Nothing like Sarah Beenys God awful ugly mansion. Big for the sake of it. Make the space work
 

Bucks Boy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Weā€˜ve built 2 houses. Donā€™t build any bigger than you need. Big house cost a lot to build and run. Heated both our houses with just a wood burner. Had to have electric underfloor downstairs and electric rads upstairs to meet building regs. Much cheaper than any wet system. Never switch them on! South facing maximum solar gain. Keep all farming activities out of house, lamb feeding etc. It just gets messy. Kitchen, dinning and living open plan together. One separate other room Plus utility. Wife says you must have a pantry. Thermal solar panels a must. Did fit built in hoover system in first house. Didnā€™t bother second time. Battery ones so good now, no ridiculously long hose to store. Fitted IKEA kitchen. Keep it all as simple as possible. Outside hot water tap; calf feeding, car washing etc.
 
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