New Farming Investment Fund launched today

[alomy75]

Not really because if it wasn’t for these schemes the prices wouldn’t have been inflated by that much (before the steel price rise on top) and you could have bought the stuff straightforwardly without filling in forms and jumping through hoops. We bought alot of the items listed 4-5 years ago for way less than the price they are now with the help of a grant.

Not only that but one might argue whatever you buy will have depreciated 20% as soon as you get it home too

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

We’re the welsh not getting 50-60% grants on direct drills and sward lifters when we couldn’t in England?

Not sure, Welsh farmers maybe, nothing for foresters or contractors.

 

[Sid]

Grants should be paid for new silage pits so farmers can reduce plastic use on bales

But with a higher percentage wastage?

 

[Still Farming]

As I say Janet I don't want to seem ungrateful but very few of these things will make the average farm more profitable, unfortunately in fact in most cases it will be quite the opposite unless of course new machines mean you are able to sack the occasional workman saving a wage, I would love to know how the ministry see these grants improving the profitability of our UK farms?

How many also buy just for the discount and grant?
Often it's the machinery manufacturer and dealers do the best in the end!

 

[neilo]

This is what we in England have to compete with, a new farm scheme in Ireland 150 Euros for the first 10 suckler cows 120 Euros for the rest.
What do we get?
new-suckler-scheme-four-actions-to-qualify-for-payment

Sovereignty, and Westminster control of our own Ag policy?

 

[cattleman123]

It's like all grants//subsidies /gifts
They are offered and you can accept or decline
Just be thankful someone offered

Yes i agree with that statement....but

 

[EmmaPowlett]

We have had the prices independently validated, and also checked back on what we paid back last time, so we think they are broadly right (or as right as we can get them), but let me know when you've reviewed more closely, I'm keen to hear feedback.

During LEADER grant days I honestly saw at cereals signs on direct drills with 40/off..amd a EU logo.. The manufacturers will be rubbing their hands with joy. Obvs great for manufacturing, local supply chain etc.. But please defra do be aware of reality.

 

[Sid]

How many also buy just for the discount and grant?
Often it's the machinery manufacturer and dealers do the best in the end!

Difference between splash plate and trailing shoe is same as an apprentice hourly wage.
Why would I want to pay a full-time employees annual wage in capital outlay?

 

[Sid]

During LEADER grant days I honestly saw at cereals signs on direct drills with 40/off..amd a EU logo.. The manufacturers will be rubbing their hands with joy. Obvs great for manufacturing, local supply chain etc.. But please defra do be aware of reality.

Probably had a EU grant as well to increase productivity. I know a few manufacturers that have!

 

[neilo]

We’re the welsh not getting 50-60% grants on direct drills and sward lifters when we couldn’t in England?

40% under the Small Business Grant scheme, which was matched by an English scheme a couple of months after.

The Welsh scheme stated that the items couldn't be used for contracting, not that it was policeable. I didn't see that stipulation in the English scheme.

 

[lazy farmer]

Never in my life have I come across such a bunch of ungrateful folk as farmers .If folk dont want to a claim on the scheme or find it doesn’t help increase their profitability then don’t apply for it it’s quite simple. The choice is yours. But to come on here and moan is pitiful. it makes Oliver and his “please can I have some more” look dignified.

 

[Still Farming]

Difference between splash plate and trailing shoe is same as an apprentice hourly wage.
Why would I want to pay a full-time employees annual wage in capital outlay?

Sprat to catch a mackerel is it?

 

[BrianV]

Yes i agree with that statement....but

The but is when foreign imports start to arrive as they eventually will, we will be competing with our "with benefits" nearest neighbours holding our nice shiny new spades but with tears in our eyes!

During LEADER grant days I honestly saw at cereals signs on direct drills with 40/off..amd a EU logo.. The manufacturers will be rubbing their hands with joy. Obvs great for manufacturing, local supply chain etc.. But please defra do be aware of reality.

Not sure Defra & reality belong in the same sentence!

 

[Still Farming]

40% under the Small Business Grant scheme, which was matched by an English scheme a couple of months after.

The Welsh scheme stated that the items couldn't be used for contracting, not that it was policeable. I didn't see that stipulation in the English scheme.

Contractors allowed if you read her blogpost

 

[glasshouse]

But with a higher percentage wastage?

No

 

[Cornish82]

Mechanical Weeding - OPICO Products

Mechanical weeding is a commercially viable means of herbicide-free weed control for both organic and conventional farmers, reducing chemical usage.

products.opico.co.uk

Grass Harrow - OPICO Products

The angle of the tine combined with the harrow's overall design makes it ideal for stimulating new grass or renovating old pastures. Transform the way you work your grass.

products.opico.co.uk

Those links may help

Been looking at a sward lifter that I've now discovered I can't get any money for cos I'm Welsh!

Cannot see the difference between the grass harrow and the comb weeder, if they are doing the same job would a "grass harrow" be eligible?

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Cannot see the difference between the grass harrow and the comb weeder, if they are doing the same job would a "grass harrow" be eligible?

Asking the wrong person really but I personally couldn't see why it would matter. I've not actually read the comb harrow link myself but figured there must be a difference somewhere or another. Sure I read somewhere else once a comb harrow isn't as aggressive as a grass harrow ever could be.

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Contractors allowed if you read her blogpost

The Welsh one contractors weren't eligible which is why I stopped looking into it. Then this one looked promising for contractors but then read England only. I guess I'm right in saying because we have 'Welsh government'?

 

[Sid]

No

www.swarmhub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/BRP-Making-grass-silage-for-better-returns-manual-5-160915.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiA7IXy0Z30AhXLiVwKHVBiBnAQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2e532dfsWY9yMFkeYy9HOb

It has been found that DM losses can be higher for clamp systems compared to bales (25% versus
8%).

 

[BrianV]

Never in my life have I come across such a bunch of ungrateful folk as farmers .If folk dont want to a claim on the scheme or find it doesn’t help increase their profitability then don’t apply for it it’s quite simple. The choice is yours. But to come on here and moan is pitiful. it makes Oliver and his “please can I have some more” look dignified.

Not sure you are living in the real world, all we want is a level playing field no more no less, before long China will tire of Aussie & NZ imports & they along with others will flood our markets, that is fine if we in the West are all supported or not supported in the same way but that is not happening, we in England are offered help to buy shiny new bits & bobs that do nothing to make us competitive, this government is simply transferring what funds that came to farmers all over Europe to keep everyone on an even keel to manufacturers & suppliers.
When UK farmers get squeezed those very same manufacturers & suppliers will be the first to feel the consequences, this dishonest government is simply buying urban votes to stay in power until after the next election!