New Ferry Route For Ireland & Restrictions For GB Foodstuffs

Frank-the-Wool

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
It is interesting that DFDS have just announced a new direct Ferry from Rosslare to Dunkerque so avoiding the land bridge through a non EU country. This will be a freight only route taking 24 hours and the drivers will get cabins so will have all there breaks on the journey ready to drive the maximum time. This will avoid possible delays at Dover and customs clearance checks as they will always be on EU soil. It will run 6 days a week.

It has also just been announced but not confirmed yet that there will be no clearance facilities for livestock or products that require health certification at Calais. This will also be put through Dunkerque, which is not ideal and likely to lead to longer delays unless the Port facilities have been improved recently.

Not sure any of this benefits us in the UK?
 

JeepJeep

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Trade
It'll End up as mostly unaccompanied Freight... Noone will want a man and unit on a boat for 24 hours.

They'll have a man hauling to the boat then a man the other side hauling in Europe.

It'll add time into the supply chains aswell.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
It is interesting that DFDS have just announced a new direct Ferry from Rosslare to Dunkerque so avoiding the land bridge through a non EU country. This will be a freight only route taking 24 hours and the drivers will get cabins so will have all there breaks on the journey ready to drive the maximum time. This will avoid possible delays at Dover and customs clearance checks as they will always be on EU soil. It will run 6 days a week.

It has also just been announced but not confirmed yet that there will be no clearance facilities for livestock or products that require health certification at Calais. This will also be put through Dunkerque, which is not ideal and likely to lead to longer delays unless the Port facilities have been improved recently.

Not sure any of this benefits us in the UK?
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
It'll End up as mostly unaccompanied Freight... Noone will want a man and unit on a boat for 24 hours.

They'll have a man hauling to the boat then a man the other side hauling in Europe.

It'll add time into the supply chains aswell.
There aren’t many drivers actually drive across from Rosslare - Fishguard and that’s 3 hours. My wife was a tug driver putting the artic trailers from the docks onto the ferry for a few years - scary sh!t loading the 1am crossing!
 

JeepJeep

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Trade
There aren’t many drivers actually drive across from Rosslare - Fishguard and that’s 3 hours. My wife was a tug driver putting the artic trailers from the docks onto the ferry for a few years

We had Mostyn open for a while before the Dee silted up again. You'd get the odd one but the bulk of it were trailer only.

Look at the Shift patterns a good chunk of the Fridge lads are on when you see them advertised and 24 Hours on a boat will scupper the current set ups.
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
We had Mostyn open for a while before the Dee silted up again. You'd get the odd one but the bulk of it were trailer only.

Look at the Shift patterns a good chunk of the Fridge lads are on when you see them advertised and 24 Hours on a boat will scupper the current set ups.

But saying that, Waiting whilst someone scratches their head in Holyhead will to....

Conclusion- Job f**ked.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
We had Mostyn open for a while before the Dee silted up again. You'd get the odd one but the bulk of it were trailer only.

Look at the Shift patterns a good chunk of the Fridge lads are on when you see them advertised and 24 Hours on a boat will scupper the current set ups.
Saying that the 24 hours off may well suit Tacho’s well as a weekend stop but I’m not totally up to date with the breaks needed at weekends etc. I know a fair few running fridges and all I know is it’s certainly well paying for the staff and the owners!
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Saying that the 24 hours off may well suit Tacho’s well as a weekend stop but I’m not totally up to date with the breaks needed at weekends etc. I know a fair few running fridges and all I know is it’s certainly well paying for the staff and the owners!

I've seen some of the rates for Subbies for the larger ones... and it makes you wonder though.
 

Agrivator

Member
It'll End up as mostly unaccompanied Freight... Noone will want a man and unit on a boat for 24 hours.

They'll have a man hauling to the boat then a man the other side hauling in Europe.

It'll add time into the supply chains aswell.
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After a few pints of Guinness, and 20 hours of sea sickness, no one will be fit to drive when they reach Port.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
It is interesting that DFDS have just announced a new direct Ferry from Rosslare to Dunkerque so avoiding the land bridge through a non EU country. This will be a freight only route taking 24 hours and the drivers will get cabins so will have all there breaks on the journey ready to drive the maximum time. This will avoid possible delays at Dover and customs clearance checks as they will always be on EU soil. It will run 6 days a week.

It has also just been announced but not confirmed yet that there will be no clearance facilities for livestock or products that require health certification at Calais. This will also be put through Dunkerque, which is not ideal and likely to lead to longer delays unless the Port facilities have been improved recently.

Not sure any of this benefits us in the UK?
would have thought it good if they go direct, bit less traffic on the roads if nart else
 

br jones

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Irish Sea Ferry Statistics
  • This year, 55% of trucks travelling to Ireland have done so on a Northern Ireland ferry route, with 45% taking a route to the Republic of Ireland
  • 36% of all Northern Ireland ferry sailings are on the Cairnryan - Larne ferry route
  • 34% of all Irish Sea ferry sailings are on a Heysham - Dublin, Liverpool - Dublin or Holyhead - Dublin ferry route
  • Over 620,000 accompanied and unaccompanied units have taken a ferry to Northern Ireland so far this year
  • Approximately 740,000 trucks, lorries and unaccompanied trailers have travelled on a Republic of Ireland ferry route so far this year
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
would have thought it good if they go direct, bit less traffic on the roads if nart else
Yes, it'll ease a bit of pressure at the ports during transition too.

It also ensures that they will be able to import beef from the EU or further afield, without running the gauntlet of the UK Port Authorities. And that could be the beef that becomes Irish, ready for export to Mcdonalds and other UK customers.
Simple answer to that problem, McDonalds just use UK beef. (y) (a campaign made for social media :))

The ferry is capable of around 900 lorries a week ,
A tiny percentage of the total... but not going to make the difference my first point anticipated.
 

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