New Highway code rules ffs

[Mangalitza]

CPF Bang on. I just hope my local bike hire company in the New Forest doesn't latch onto these death traps

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I think your interpretation of the regs is a bit out there, mine is, if the junction is controlled by lights the lights control who has the priorities.

I'm talking pedestrian crossings , if there is a paved bit on the kerb with no lights you are now suppose to stop
This one , to be honest I am not sure what the old rule was

 

[Derrick Hughes]

This one

 

[Highland Mule]

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No, that wouldn't apply to the changes - it's only an issue at a junction and not really a rule change at all. If a pedestrian is on a minor road and the car turns on to it from the major one, then the pedestrian has right of way. Just as they always have had.

Or, from the .gov website:

The updated code clarifies that:

• when people are crossing or waiting to cross at a junction, other traffic should give way
• if people have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, the people crossing have priority and the traffic should give way
• people driving, riding a motorcycle or cycling must give way to people on a zebra crossing and people walking and cycling on a parallel crossing

A parallel crossing is similar to a zebra crossing, but includes a cycle route alongside the black and white stripes.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No, that wouldn't apply to the changes - it's only an issue at a junction and not really a rule change at all. If a pedestrian is on a minor road and the car turns on to it from the major one, then the pedestrian has right of way. Just as they always have had.

Or, from the .gov website:

As a considerate driver I will continue to stop and let them cross , dad told me to have manners and show respect

 

[Highland Mule]

As a considerate driver I will continue to stop and let them cross , dad told me to have manners and show respect

As will I - the law has not changed so no need for any fuss either, however much you keep trying.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

As will I - the law has not changed so no need for any fuss either, however much you keep trying.

I follow advice as well as law , driving advice has changed in the highway code , especially at junctions for pedestrians , like the driving instructor said , it's only bad drivers that are complaining ,

 

[Highland Mule]

driving advice has changed in the highway code , especially at junctions for pedestrians

No, let's get that clear. The advice has not changed - it has been clarified. It was always the case that a pedestrian already on a minor road had priority over a motorist joining that road.

 

[Mangalitza]

Yes pedestrians have always had the right of way but they also had good sense to realise if they stepped into the path of a moving vehicle they would come off worse. Unfortunately those same pedestrians particularly the elderly and those who don't drive wont bother to read the highway code updates. That's when there'll be hesitation confusion and confliction resulting in some poor s-- visiting A&E

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Yes pedestrians have always had the right of way but they also had good sense to realise if they stepped into the path of a moving vehicle they would come off worse. Unfortunately those same pedestrians particularly the elderly and those who don't drive wont bother to read the highway code updates. That's when there'll be hesitation confusion and confliction resulting in some poor s-- visiting A&E

They don't step into the path , they wait for you to stop , which I now do , and most smile at me as they walk across ,

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No, let's get that clear. The advice has not changed - it has been clarified. It was always the case that a pedestrian already on a minor road had priority over a motorist joining that road.

It's not clarified it's changed ,or added to

 

[Highland Mule]

It's not clarified

Tell that to the government.

The Highway Code: 8 changes you need to know from 29 January 2022

Rules for all types of road users have been updated in The Highway Code to improve the safety of people walking, cycling and riding horses.

www.gov.uk

 

[Mangalitza]

They don't step into the path , they wait for you to stop , which I now do , and most smile at me as they walk across ,

 

[Mangalitza]

They don't step into the path , they wait for you to stop , which I now do , and most smile at me as they walk across ,

What I said was if they had any sense they wouldn't step into a moving vehicles path. If you are under the elusion this is something pedestrians don't do then please stay clear of my local school when the kids are released and coming home.
Put yourself in a situation were you have stopped to let an elderly pedestrian cross but they stay put because they are confused and not aware of the new law, so they start waving their walking stick at you. As I see it you don't have many options but I'd like to hear what you would do. I have two high streets in my area with very heavy pedestrian traffic would you be happy to wait all day at a junction for a suitable gap before proceeding. I know the stream of drivers waiting behind you wouldn't be. There will always be grey areas when it comes to who has the right of way, unfortunately the authorities are very good at laying down laws that can put road users in serious danger. For example who in there right minds would allow a disabled scooter with a top speed of 8mph on a 70mph dual carriageway.