New Holland 6 cylinder T6.160 vs T6.180

[dieselboost]

Hi Guys,

A new Tier 5 New Holland T6.160 and T6.180. Are there any component or physical build differences between the two models. Both are 6 cyl with different hp ratings. Is that literally the only difference? Specifying both with a 50km Electroshift transmission, is the only difference the fuel/engine ECU map? I have heard mention that the turbos are different specs/models but I have not physically popped the bonnet of a 160 to compare against my 2020 model year 180.

Thanks

 

[vantage]

Electroshift?

 

[ridger]

Electroshift?

Think id be going range command, other is too noisy

 

[dieselboost]

Yes, agree they are noisy. Well used to them at this stage though as have had that gearbox through a few different series stating with an 8340 in the late 1990s. Range command is a step up to T7 size tractor, which is unnecessary for my work.

 

[Salopian_Will]

Yes, agree they are noisy. Well used to them at this stage though as have had that gearbox through a few different series stating with an 8340 in the late 1990s. Range command is a step up to T7 size tractor, which is unnecessary for my work.

You can get other gear boxes in T6 size tractors. Dynamic Command for one - and Range Command if you can't stretch that far, but it is still an anachronism. Range Command is nearly 30 years old.

 

[Finn farmer]

You can get proper gear boxes in T6 size tractors. Dynamic Command for one - and Range Command if you can't stretch that far, but it is still an anachronism. Electroshift is a 5000 gearbox in heritage and Range Command is nearly 30 years old too.

Proper would be AutoCommand.

 

[Salopian_Will]

Proper would be AutoCommand.

agreed.

 

[ColinV6]

As above, dynamic command as a minimum nowadays. Autocommand is the best however.

 

[JeremyD]

6.160 is four cylinder? Or it was when we purchased our 6 cylinder 6.180

 

[JeremyD]

Electro shift is pretty poor gearbox to use but its pretty bombproof and more power efficient in terms of loss than range command.

 

[Cowabunga]

Electro shift is pretty poor gearbox to use but its pretty bombproof and more power efficient in terms of loss than range command.

Unless they have changed a lot, I don’t find the Range Command to be particularly lossy. PowerCommand with the power shifting range clutches and the extra top gear may be slightly more lossy, but still not too bad in my opinion. The issue I have with Range Command is its lack of a true power-shuttle. It is a robotised synchro shuttle which breaks drive and also only has six reverse ratios. While it has done me well for nearly 25 years and hasn’t hurt the tractor’s productivity at all, including buckraking many tens of thousand of tons and otherwise on a front end loader most of the time, there are more versatile systems available. It is what it is and is still competitive today and without all the silly customisable automated functions found on rivals.
I’ve not driven a current model though and they might now be very different from what I am used to.

 

[Lakesdigger]

There is no range command in the t6 range. Its either electroshift, dynamic command or auto command afaik that's in order from lowest power loss to greater as far as I'm aware.

 

[vantage]

As far as I’m concerned, the ONLY place where Electrocommand could be better is haulage in a hilly area, in all other areas Autocommand is superior.

 

[fergie35]

There is no range command in the t6 range. Its either electroshift, dynamic command or auto command afaik that's in order from lowest power loss to greater as far as I'm aware.

You can no longer buy a 50kph electrocommand either, so if you want 50kph you have to have DCT (which is way way better than EC) or buy AutoCommand (Less Common).

 

[Badshot]

My t6.160 is definitely 4 cylinder.
Goes well.

 

[fergie35]

My t6.160 is definitely 4 cylinder.
Goes well.

Current gen T6.160 is a 6 cylinder along with the T6.180

 

[bobajob]

You get a T6 175, is it a 4 cylinder?

 

[Finn farmer]

You can no longer buy a 50kph electrocommand either, so if you want 50kph you have to have DCT (which is way way better than EC) or buy AutoCommand (Less Common).

We've had an interesting development regarding Nh/Case sales. Over 60% of new Cnh tractors sold by our dealer are sold with AutoCommand or Cvx transmissions. And the number goes up a bit every year.

 

[JeremyD]

 

[JeremyD]

Excellent value the above 6.180 was 60 k brand new in Dec 17 with trimble ez pilot! Dread to think what it would cost at the moment!