New Holland Intellisteer

[cosmagedon]

What's needed to get intellisteer up and working on a T7 that isn't equipped for steering already? I've got the full autopilot kit of another tractor to fit, I just need new hoses to match my tractor.

I understand I will need a Nav 2 controller with New Holland firmware installed. Other than that are all the plugs in the loom already and the software installed on the intelliview 3?

 

[yellowfrog]

I started from scratch with a auto con 7.200. had bought trimble fmx 1000. so needed to full auto steer tractor. purchased a kit from nh dealers which consisted of = replacement orbitol unit, valve block, hyd pipework, wireloom for steering sensor wire loom to connect nav 2 controller .. larger tray assemblybehind pass seat nav 2 sits underneath. wireloom for safty switch on off.bracketto go on roof for satalite dome and all bolts fittings. I was quoted a price of £2600 ,got it on a stock order so paid £2200. fitting cost £400 and took 1.5 days to fit

 

[cosmagedon]

I started from scratch with a auto con 7.200. had bought trimble fmx 1000. so needed to full auto steer tractor. purchased a kit from nh dealers which consisted of = replacement orbitol unit, valve block, hyd pipework, wireloom for steering sensor wire loom to connect nav 2 controller .. larger tray assemblybehind pass seat nav 2 sits underneath. wireloom for safty switch on off.bracketto go on roof for satalite dome and all bolts fittings. I was quoted a price of £2600 ,got it on a stock order so paid £2200. fitting cost £400 and took 1.5 days to fit

Didn't realise the genuine NH kit was steered through the orbital unit. I've got this kit to fit http://www.ascommunications.co.uk/automatic-steering/autopilot-automatic-steering-system/

So you use the FMX 1000 as your screen? Do you find it clutters the cab up? I've got the drill screen and EZ 250 in mine now and its blocking most of the window!

 

[yellowfrog]

yes I bought the new Holland kit . one part no = the whole kit. I purchased the trimble fmx 1000which came with screen ,nav 2, sat dome and because I wanted rtk a radio aerial. trimble kit was usedas much as that it had been fitted to a combine for harvest when new ,paid 25%less damn good buy considering its only used for 2 months. my fmx screen iis fitted to the right of the dash on a bracket attached to the piller by door/window catch.so its low . yes my window is also cluttered by= two drill control boxes, camera screen, cb, and power box. dealer fitted the nh kit, trimble fitted trimble kit . fired it all up put in calibrations has worked fantastic ever since ,no problems what soever. total cost was approx. £12 k

 

[yellowfrog]

I went for the fmx screen cos friend of mine runs 5 trimble set ups and he said = 1/ screen easier to see 2/ if your like me and got big mits easier to program 3/ trimble 750 if you have problem most of the time they got to come out and plug in a laptop where as the 1000 most can be done over the phone

 

[GPS_Support_2014]

@cosmagedon- if you want to use the IntelliView display with your guidance system then you need to order the kit that Yellowfrog ordered (the ones with valves and cabling etc.). The kit that you referred to in the link above is a full autopilot kit and is not the same as an IntelliSteer kit. A full autopilot kit will only work with a Trimble display. An IntelliSteer kit can be used with the IntelliView display or a Trimble display (hybrid installation). A New Holland dealer will be able to offer you both solutions so try speaking to them for more information.

 

[cosmagedon]

Thanks for the replies, makes a lot more sense now I didn't want to excite my local dealer yet and would rather and unbiased opinion on what kit, not just what they understand. I got the autopilot kit at a very good price second hand so I will continue down the Trimble route in that case.

@yellowfrog sounds like you got a good deal there, any chance of some pictures of how you have it mounted, it sounds nice and neat.

@GPS_Support_2014 Can the Trimble system still be plugged into the New Holland loom to make use of the steering activation button on the joystick? Or will I have to have a separate switch?

 

[GPS_Support_2014]

If it's a Full autopilot system then it's not possible to use the engage button on the joystick. You need to add your own switch or a Footswitch. The footswitch is quite a common accessory.

 

[cosmagedon]

Bugger, was hoping I could keep it nice and neat all on the joystick!

 

[Badshot]

Bugger, was hoping I could keep it nice and neat all on the joystick!

If it's a Full autopilot system then it's not possible to use the engage button on the joystick. You need to add your own switch or a Footswitch. The footswitch is quite a common accessory.

Any switch can be programmed for use can't it? We fitted a neat switch on my Bateman, surely if the wiring can be traced it could be used.

 

[yellowfrog]

cosmagedon. my auto steer is activated by the button on the joystick . I don't know the in and outs but all I know is that my trimble fmx plugged straight into the wireloom on tractor.only addon I have is a wire from tractor mutiplug up in back right corner which sends signal to fmx to log or not log according to wether linkage is up or down,,( do about 1500 acres maize and 700 acres combi drilling) so logging what I have drilled automatically give a bit of time and will take photos and with luck get them on here . have seen what you have through the link supplied , I see it also has a valve block which has got to go on the orbitol unit. I know the kit I had had the valve but also another orbitol unit whch had to be changed . I think there was about 4 hydraulic pipes to change 2 of which were under the floor of cab. I don't quite understand the differences between trimble and the nh trimble

 

[Northern farmer]

Any switch can be programmed for use can't it? We fitted a neat switch on my Bateman, surely if the wiring can be traced it could be used.

Programmed or wired? For a kit that connects to the tractor CAN, the receiver may have an option to pick up the CAN message that tells a specific joystick button has been pressed.

May sound odd but feeding wires directly from the joystick switch may not be easy at all. The point being that an individual switch on a group like on the joystick are connected to a matrix. Each switch does not have its own wiring which could be "stolen" for other purposes. One would likely have to rework a printed circuit board to cut wires from the switch to the matrix which probably leads to some circuit board connections becoming lost and those again have to be rewired. Difficult in a small space inside the joystick.

For cars there are small black boxes that read CAN messages and drive a signal wire accordingly. Something similar could work.

 

[yellowfrog]

 

[cosmagedon]

Thanks for getting the pictures, I just need to find the rest of the parts second hand now

 

[yellowfrog]

as promised cosmagedon. not nesessarily in right order. pic3 where its mounted. pic1 , pic of bracket I made to which a ram ball mount is fitted. on right front piller by window catch are 2 plastic buttons that hold plastic piller cover ,remove and will see 2 metal tabs need to drill out to 6.5 mm ,thenyou can pass 6mm bolt thro clamp and cover to hold bracket.found that with a ram ball mount you can get it at the exact angle when your in seat. best place to put it as your already facing forward so just glance down to see screen not sideways. pic 2 just a shot to show valve block on orbitol unit . as I remember 6 hyd fittings. what is your t7 mine is autocontrol ,don't know if anything is different on a powershift

 

[cosmagedon]

Mines a T7.250 power command, it should all be the same though. I'm hoping I can buy the hydraulic hose kit and loom to fit my valve on. Fit a Nav 2 in the same position as yours and maybe run it off a FM750 using as much of the New Holland loom as I can to keep it tidy/simple.

 

[yellowfrog]

Mines a T7.250 power command, it should all be the same though. I'm hoping I can buy the hydraulic hose kit and loom to fit my valve on. Fit a Nav 2 in the same position as yours and maybe run it off a FM750 using as much of the New Holland loom as I can to keep it tidy/simple.

if you have any problems , istill have the fitting instructions for the nh kit . can copy and send to you if needed

 

[cosmagedon]

That would be good to have a read through if you wouldn't mind. I will pm you my email now.

 

[Slick]

Fitting instructions for the nh kit will bear little resemblance to a Trimble full hydraulic ap install.
The recommended position for the nav controller is down the right hand side of the seat, where the
fire extinguisher bracket is. There is a specific bracket for that location.
Hydraulic wise i think a tank check valve is needed somewhere and i think a counterbalance as well.

 

[Sam Spud]

How did you get on with fitting the kit to the t7.250. Was wandering if anyone had the new holland part no for the complete kit that yellowfrog fitted? Looking to do something similar with at t7.235 and FM750