New homes gas boiler ban 2025

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
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Glamorgan Wales
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Just bought a new boiler yesterday for my rental property - supposed to be Hydrogen ready. Good deal as it was half list price, and despite all the crap about manufacturing delays and lack of transport it arrived within less than 24 hours. Perhaps that’s what comes of buying German. But got to wait a month for a plumber to fit it!
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Surely all that will happen is either:

A) New homes are fitted with a heat pump, which the new owner rips out straight away and replaces it with a gas boiler. Very environmentally friendly 🙄

B) The less wasteful option…..new homes are built without a boiler, but with a blanked off spare gas supply…and the new occupant arranges privately to have a heating engineer fit one the day after they buy it.
 
Surely all that will happen is either:

A) New homes are fitted with a heat pump, which the new owner rips out straight away and replaces it with a gas boiler. Very environmentally friendly 🙄

B) The less wasteful option…..new homes are built without a boiler, but with a blanked off spare gas supply…and the new occupant arranges privately to have a heating engineer fit one the day after they buy it.
New homes are and will be built to high insulation standards which will work well with an ASHP.
 

Lincs Lass

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north lincs
Much as though those Insulate Britain plonkers have caused loads of problems , I can see their point .
Millions of houses with leaky windows (mine for one) with single glazed units because G2 listing says it can't have anything else.
The gas boilers would be far more efficient if half the heat didn't leak out the draft gaps.
Still millions of houses with minimal loft insulation.
Thankfully I've got the multifuel rayburn and I get trees for nowt,,Well untill some eco government twit says otherwise
 
I have customers now planning a replacement the year before they're banned.
Coming up to our fifth winter with an ASHP and have no complaints whatsoever other than it being a little slow to react because the house has massive heat-sink properties - The house was built in 1995.
I am considering adding a reversible aircon/heat pump unit for air con purposes and the occasional evening when the weather is on the cusp.
Shouldn’t cost more than £500 + installation costs ( The pic is from a Mitre 10 in NZ).
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renewablejohn

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lancs
Much as though those Insulate Britain plonkers have caused loads of problems , I can see their point .
Millions of houses with leaky windows (mine for one) with single glazed units because G2 listing says it can't have anything else.
The gas boilers would be far more efficient if half the heat didn't leak out the draft gaps.
Still millions of houses with minimal loft insulation.
Thankfully I've got the multifuel rayburn and I get trees for nowt,,Well untill some eco government twit says otherwise
Urban myth that G2 listing says you only can have single glaze. Sat here in a G2 listed farmhouse with triple glazing direct into the stone mullions. At the same time the listed building consent included insulated sealed doors, UFH and MVHR as well as en-suites to make the bedrooms more practical for modern living. The whole idea is to seal the farmhouse to high spec then use the MVHR for maintaining the fabric of the building. I was sceptical but it does actually work.
 
Just bought a new boiler yesterday for my rental property - supposed to be Hydrogen ready. Good deal as it was half list price, and despite all the crap about manufacturing delays and lack of transport it arrived within less than 24 hours. Perhaps that’s what comes of buying German. But got to wait a month for a plumber to fit it!
What’s its EPC rating though? Due to the system, often the best are not considered though by the government
Much as though those Insulate Britain plonkers have caused loads of problems , I can see their point .
Millions of houses with leaky windows (mine for one) with single glazed units because G2 listing says it can't have anything else.
The gas boilers would be far more efficient if half the heat didn't leak out the draft gaps.
Still millions of houses with minimal loft insulation.
Thankfully I've got the multifuel rayburn and I get trees for nowt,,Well untill some eco government twit says otherwise

surely you are the minority though with a listed house?
Urban myth that G2 listing says you only can have single glaze. Sat here in a G2 listed farmhouse with triple glazing direct into the stone mullions. At the same time the listed building consent included insulated sealed doors, UFH and MVHR as well as en-suites to make the bedrooms more practical for modern living. The whole idea is to seal the farmhouse to high spec then use the MVHR for maintaining the fabric of the building. I was sceptical but it does actually work.
Yes and no. A lot depends on the local conservation officer, some are sensible, others can’t spell that word...
 

PostHarvest

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Location
Warwick
New homes are and will be built to high insulation standards which will work well with an ASHP
I'd question the statement that new homes are built to high standards. IMHO, the standard of construction of most British houses is abysmal. I'm in the process of replacing a house roof that was built by a major company "on the cheap". Its having to be rebuilt as it doesn't comply with building regulations even though it was supposedly approved by our local building inspectors. We are years behind the insulation standards that are commonly used in many parts of Europe. I've been told by two heating specialists in recent days that its a total waste of time and money to install an ASHP in a house that isn't designed around that type of heating system.
 

Lincs Lass

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north lincs
surely you are the minority though with a listed house?
The nieghbors have a stone house ,same build type as mine but not listed ,,they have been fighting the council for two years to replace their windows ,,still have wood frames and want them out.
Just keep getting told they must replace like for like ,no double glazing and they have gas heating ,,
Because all the houses down my road are all 1850 s ears and all have wood frames ,,the planning department say fitting upvc will not be in keeping with the rest ,yes all the newer builds have upvc and all in white .
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
The nieghbors have a stone house ,same build type as mine but not listed ,,they have been fighting the council for two years to replace their windows ,,still have wood frames and want them out.
Just keep getting told they must replace like for like ,no double glazing and they have gas heating ,,
Because all the houses down my road are all 1850 s ears and all have wood frames ,,the planning department say fitting upvc will not be in keeping with the rest ,yes all the newer builds have upvc and all in white .
Sounds like there asking for upvc rather than wood. Wooden frames can be designed to have triple glazing just as easy as single. From memory mine are 4,16,4,16,4 with solar coating on inside and self clean on outside, argon filled. Planners dont like upvc in old buildings and I dont like wood as my windows although a lot of them are only narrow by the time you had wood surrounds the light was drastically reduced. Fortunately still had an original leaded pane direct into stone mullions so with English Heritage help forced the jobsworth in charge of listed building consent to agree with the traditional glass direct into the stone mullions sealed with burnt mastic. The newer extension uses the same triple glaze units replacing single glaze but had to be in wooden surrounds to distinguish between the 'old' and the 'new'.
 
Must admit my 1995 build house has wooden double glazed windows and cavity walling with a 100 mm cavity accommodating 50 mm of styrofoam then the inner leaf is of 100 mm Fibrolite blocks .
The original 75 mm floor screed is directly over 100 mm of concrete surrounded by an insulation break and under which is the 50 mm of insulation .
 

robs1

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Conservation officers are a law into themselves, nearly as bad as planning officers. There are two ways to deal with them either give in or fight, I did the latter and won hands down, you just need to know the law( they often dont ) and be prepared to battle it out
 

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