Still can’t beat working land all I do is sumo trio it and then drill
New information about local nature recovery and landscape recovery
- Thread starter Janet Hughes Defra
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What happens when roundup is banned. As most farmers I have spoken to on zero till will be lost without it. I can see ploughs coming back out of the shed.
Use your imagination. We use less than when we ploughed and cultivated.
Sounds like easy land. What will you do when roundup is banned?
gone up the hill
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- Devon
Would you be intrested in spending a couple of days in the SW being shown why your views on the SFP replacement/ subs to small farms is so out of touch with the real world for thousands of small/family farms across the UK @ajd132 ??
Also can you confirm if you have or have not played a role within the NFU supporting the new sub system and the fact it will drive 30% of farmers out of the industry??
The plough still comes out most years. But who knows!
Oh dear. No I have nothing to do wkth the NFU, have recently withdrawn my membership and are regularly outspoken against the policies on social media (with my real name).
what i have been saying is the reality of what is happening, I haven’t really gone into any detail about the proposed environmental schemes as we are planning for worst case scenario without them.
Bps is going, the new schemes won’t cover its loss even by half. That’s the reality we all have, I’m not different to a farm in the south west. We are small family farm.
Having just flown over a large part of the EU any talk of the UK needing rewilding is total bull crap, there is no where I have flown over that has as many hedges & rough ground as the UK, if there is a shortage of wild birds nesting then the so called "experts" are very much looking in the wrong direction!
We are being manipulated by idiots in positions of power that are corrupting the UK!
We are being manipulated by idiots in positions of power that are corrupting the UK!
Yes I always think the same when you go through France, practically barren of hedges etc
Ten new projects aim to help farming's move to net zero
19 January 2022 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Renewables and Environment
The projects aim to develop novel solutions for a more sustainable farming industry as it moves to net zero by 2040
Ten new projects to help UK farming transition to net zero and become more sustainable have been awarded half a million pounds worth of funding.
The projects will address sustainability challenges affecting the sector, as identified by farmers, and will be carried out by some of the UK's leading agriculture and bioscience experts.
They have been formally announced today by the AHDB and the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBRSC).
Five distinct topic will be covered: technology, regenerative agriculture, soil health, improving livestock farming systems and, looking to the future, development of new resistance mechanisms.
It comes as the farming industry is aiming to reach net zero across England and Wales by 2040 as a contribution to a new target of 2050 for the whole of the UK.
The industry is currently responsible for about 9% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions, mostly from methane.
Two of the new projects will see researchers at Rothamsted Research develop a new field test kit to measure soil phosphate, while Stirling University hopes to create best-practice for tank-mixing biopesticides.
Regenerative agriculture also offers opportunities for farmers to increase sustainability, with two projects aiming to provide farmers with improved guidance.
Dr Julia Cooper at Newcastle University will work with farmers to better understand the opportunities and challenges for regenerative agriculture in northeast England.
Meanwhile, the University of Reading will work with farmers to provide improved guidance on reducing and optimising inputs for oilseed rape crops, particularly the soil health benefits from the addition of organic materials.
Dr Amanda Bennett, environment scientist at AHDB said: “Agriculture will be instrumental in reducing the impact of climate change by cutting greenhouse gas emissions and increasing carbon storage.
"These new research projects will provide much needed progress in scientific knowledge on how farming can reach net zero by 2040.”
Other projects will aim to provide guidance on the benefits of improved soil health; Scotland's Rural College (SRUC) will investigate how earthworms may reduce disease risk through effective residue management.
And Dr Matthew Back at Harper Adams University will also explore how new soil amendments could help to store carbon in soil.
The UK is ideally suited to livestock farming and Dr Georgios Banos at SRUC will aim to improve genetics to breed climate resilient sheep, while the Royal Agricultural University will look at best grazing options.
Lastly, the University of Edinburgh aims to better understand how plants and pathogens battle at the molecular level with ‘Ubiquitin induced resistance in barley’, led by Dr Beatriz Orosa.
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Seems what was promised as a continuation of Agricultural support is now being syphoned off to anybody & everybody that doesn't actually produce food, yet another example of a down right lie from politicians now temporarily in power
Yet again, the AHDB peddling their lies about our industry. When is someone going to get a grip of this organisation that we all pay to represent us ?
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Well said Brain! @Janet Hughes Defra
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Absolutely. @Janet Hughes Defra had clearly stated that double funding will not be allowed using government schemes but its not yet clear whether that also applies to industry funding and DEFRA money not being allowed at the same time.
Another example of this: would tree belt planting under LNR also be allowed to sell carbon offsets at the same time?
Sure thing that the academic world is coining it big time at the moment....
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And almost every study includes the recommendation "further study is required"....
Just like the CAAV saying "professional advice is essential"....
This is why genuine farmer to farmer knowledge exchange should be at the core of all this.
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- Essex
Selling carbon credits would be a commercial operation so not double funding. like some schemes you can graze and sell the liveweight gain from that grazing operation.
Whether you want to sell your carbon is a different matter. You might have to prove you have got it to sell which could be interesting.
Yes you can enter into both schemes - in the info we published in December, we said:
'Farmers will be able to enter land into SFI if that land is in a private sector scheme (such as carbon trading, payments for natural flood management, biodiversity net gain credits, or nutrient trading). They can also enter land into such schemes after they join SFI. In other words, a farmer can engage in SFI and a private scheme for the sale of environmental outcomes on the same area of land, subject to the rules and requirements of those schemes including on additionality and verification.
This position will be reviewed in 2023 and annually thereafter to account for developments in private environmental markets. We will ensure that we are not crowding out private finance and that land managers are better off where they access private markets. We also wish to avoid paying for the same actions that are already being paid for in a private scheme. At this stage we judge that risk to be very low, given the number and nature of SFI Standards we plan to launch in 2022.'
Thank you @Janet Hughes Defra that is good to hear.
On the 2nd (highlighted) paragraph, bearing in mind SFI is lumbering to a start, would you envisage DEFRA reneging on an Agreement, and changing the eligibility of a block of land in a given cropping, retrospectively?
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- North Wales
HI @Janet Hughes Defra.
A friend just got married and on the wedding present list there was the option to buy a tree for the National Trust to plant.
So If NT are getting other public funding to plant woodland would this exclude them from some SFI, LNR and LR options as it would be double funding?
Regulatory requirements, how are you positioning those in respect to farmers not receiving any money, while Nitrate Vulnerable zones will continue, but how do you enforce any rework of cross compliance into regulatory requirements, when the BPS money that required cross compliance ends and the farm is no longer drawing any money from DEFRA?
are you creating new management laws?
By Who and how will these be enforced?
BPS covered the loss of income from leaving what in effect were un cropped areas in fields. You make it sound as if even after BPS ends your planning on inflicting new replacements to cross compliance rules without the compensation?
This seems like an over reach, better to pay farmers to carry on rather than legislate, it would seem to me a panicked reaction when the basic schemes look unpalatable to farmers and runs the risk of lots of farmers not in schemes so dropping all cross compliance requirements. You don’t want that, so your looking for new ways to enforce them, without schemes.
we have health and safety and we have NVZ and we have in field buffers for chemical applications, so where do those leave cross compliance rules, as long as I follow the labels on my chemicals and use mechanical means to stop nitrates being spread past my field edges what rules can force me to maintain unproductive margins when the point of the new system is to help farms become less dependant of payments.
And Farm land profitably and in a sustainable way the best form of sustainable always includes profitable, so if your not supporting them, what right do you claim from stopping the farmer doing what they need to do to maintain profitability. Which in effect is very sustainable, and supplies food.
again if the base scheme had been a flat rate payment where all farms got a % of their old BPS based on farm size these problems would not occur, cross compliance would have just been bundled into it, and so would your other requirements like I said the old ELS system as a direct replacement to BPS the payments linked to farm size, so only the 60ha farms or smaller getting the full old money for the requirements if they hit 30 points per HA average over their entire farm, and a sliding scale of payments up to 400ha after that farm with more than 400ha get not extra money from extra land but they do get the first 60ha paid in full and the rest of the sliding scale money on the first 400ha in each of its diminishing steps.
So your offering farmers a level of payments for existing things that the points give them ask for cross compliance or it’s new equivalent, and get to use the points system to control the amount of money the farms get less than 30/Ha average cuts the money to the farm so you have a carrot and stick to encourage good environmental scheme goals.
points for green cover
Points for direct drilling, etc etc.
Points for cover crops, all you basic scheme goals and far more could have need accomplished in this basic scheme.
It’s basicly a scheme with 30 levels as each point up to 30 could have attracted a different pay rate where 30points was 100% but 1 point average was 3.3%
So you get a very easy scheme with a wide range of levels and pay rates and flexibility at the farm level,
I would personally only do 5 point ranges so 1-5, 6-10,11-15,16-20,21-25,26-30, but you could have had a second scheme with a target 60 points for a higher level scheme and had extra payments for options you wanted to encourage so area based payment options so extra points by using area based options where the extra payments are tied to the areas of the options taken. A scheme is judged as good if the farm hits the 60 points average.