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Agri-WMH

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Trade
Heard good things off a former boss of mine, Though he’s had a fair few of them now so could just be that he’s become a one brand man, I fancy one myself but shopping around currently, I’ll give him a bell tomorrow and reply here if nobody else has 👍🏻
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
I was going to as dealer rang me some time ago but with one thing or another haven’t got back to them. It would appear to be well spec’d or at least a load of gizmos. Probably be more expensive as a result.

To be honest I’m happy with the Isuzu I have. A 2.5 three and a half years old. If the dealer were to come up with a stonking deal I might think about it but the 1.9 engine puts me off. Toyota might be a better bet and someone on the last pickup subject priced up a new Isuzu, Toyota and something else and he said Toyota came back the cheapest. I believe that was the new 2.8 invincible (x?) which may a better truck. So hence I haven’t been in a rush to test drive one as I don’t think I want one.Sorry I’m no help at all!
 

Richard Smyth

Member
Arable Farmer
I've had a new one for 3 weeks now and 7000 kilometers. Good ute 3 liter engine is good, adaptive cruise is good, lane assist pisses me off as its always fighting me on narrow roads here and can't turn it off permanently. I don't find it particularly comfortable and its as rough as guts on anything but best roads, some weight in the back helps.

Overall wish I'd bought another Amarok but couldn't get one in time frame i needed it.
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Why o why o why cant we have the 3.0 ?!

I have pondered the same. Comes down to EU emissions regs I believe. I’m led to believe the Isuzu 3.0 engine is bomb proof and personally don’t think either the old 2.5 or the 1.9 is? Most of which is probably due to being strangled by measures taken to meet EU emissions regs.


I've had a new one for 3 weeks now and 7000 kilometers. Good ute 3 liter engine is good, adaptive cruise is good, lane assist pisses me off as its always fighting me on narrow roads here and can't turn it off permanently. I don't find it particularly comfortable and its as rough as guts on anything but best roads, some weight in the back helps.

Overall wish I'd bought another Amarok but couldn't get one in time frame i needed it.

I’ve read on Australia Isuzu forum the same thing about the lane assist. They say it can be turned off but defaults to back on next time the Ute is started.
 

feilding

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
At Home
Why o why o why cant we have the 3.0 ?!
Some idiot in a office thinking that they know better than the customer. NZ/ Aus customers don't buy vehicles with toy engines.
When I was in NZ last time talking to a Ford dealer about the ranger, he didn't know as ford put the 2.2 engine in a ranger. His words were, "how does it move with a engine so small" .all they sold were the 3.2 automatic, he had heard about a manual gearbox, but never sold one.
Same story in Australia. At a mine site they had just had delivery of new Ute's. All ford rangers, 3.2 automatic/ chassis cabs. In white. Small order just a 1000 vehicles .they had changed from Toyota's, as they had always used because they broke down too often. The Ford's were more reliable they said, they kept them about 2 yrs. And had 1000 Ute's every 6 months. They built their own rear body's, so it was right for whatever the job was. Some were flat beds, or box body's.
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Some idiot in a office thinking that they know better than the customer. NZ/ Aus customers don't buy vehicles with toy engines.
When I was in NZ last time talking to a Ford dealer about the ranger, he didn't know as ford put the 2.2 engine in a ranger. His words were, "how does it move with a engine so small" .all they sold were the 3.2 automatic, he had heard about a manual gearbox, but never sold one.
Same story in Australia. At a mine site they had just had delivery of new Ute's. All ford rangers, 3.2 automatic/ chassis cabs. In white. Small order just a 1000 vehicles .they had changed from Toyota's, as they had always used because they broke down too often. The Ford's were more reliable they said, they kept them about 2 yrs. And had 1000 Ute's every 6 months. They built their own rear body's, so it was right for whatever the job was. Some were flat beds, or box body's.

I don’t think Isuzu can get that 3.0 engine to meet strict EU emission regulations. Suppose could have cheated ;) Now we are no longer members of the EU I don’t suppose for one minute anything will change. It’s a shame but it seems we are stuck with the 1.9 - if you buy a new isuzu. I could see a lot of Aussies avoiding the d-max like the plague if they were only offered a 1.9.

Interesting what you say about the Toyota’s.
 

feilding

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
At Home
I don’t think Isuzu can get that 3.0 engine to meet strict EU emission regulations. Suppose could have cheated ;) Now we are no longer members of the EU I don’t suppose for one minute anything will change. It’s a shame but it seems we are stuck with the 1.9 - if you buy a new isuzu. I could see a lot of Aussies avoiding the d-max like the plague if they were only offered a 1.9.

Interesting what you say about the Toyota’s.
If nobody bought the new model with that toy engine then they might take notice.
 

robs1

Member
We have one it pulls the max allowable weight at max permissible speed on the road no bother, it's an auto not manual, could always get it chipped if you wanted more grunt.
 

Richard Smyth

Member
Arable Farmer
I’ve read on Australia Isuzu forum the same thing about the lane assist. They say it can be turned off but defaults to back on next time the Ute is started.

that’s right. Turn it off have a nice drive stop ute restart it and it’s back. No light on dash so you don’t realise until driving. Can’t get into settings menu to turn it off when driving so have to come to a standstill to turn it off again.

I’ve had a word with the dealer and apparently they can’t do anything about it. Funny that Toyota stays off permanently.

to be honest I think if I’d have driven it for a day of 2 I wouldn’t have bought it.
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
If nobody bought the new model with that toy engine then they might take notice.

Realistically it won’t happen. The 1.9 does the job as had been mentioned. I preferred the old 2.5 against the 1.9 when it first came out. I’ve run an Isuzu since 2013 and I think my next pickup will be Ford or Toyota if only for a change.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Realistically it won’t happen. The 1.9 does the job as had been mentioned. I preferred the old 2.5 against the 1.9 when it first came out. I’ve run an Isuzu since 2013 and I think my next pickup will be Ford or Toyota if only for a change.
Is the new 1.9 engine map the same as the 1.9 that has been out for a year or so? Thinking of a change but may just run my 2.5 into the ground. Will get a test drive of the new one, I guess the only way to find out!
 
Some idiot in a office thinking that they know better than the customer. NZ/ Aus customers don't buy vehicles with toy engines.
When I was in NZ last time talking to a Ford dealer about the ranger, he didn't know as ford put the 2.2 engine in a ranger. His words were, "how does it move with a engine so small" .all they sold were the 3.2 automatic, he had heard about a manual gearbox, but never sold one.
Same story in Australia. At a mine site they had just had delivery of new Ute's. All ford rangers, 3.2 automatic/ chassis cabs. In white. Small order just a 1000 vehicles .they had changed from Toyota's, as they had always used because they broke down too often. The Ford's were more reliable they said, they kept them about 2 yrs. And had 1000 Ute's every 6 months. They built their own rear body's, so it was right for whatever the job was. Some were flat beds, or box body's.
Sound like you met some Ford dealers who don't know their stuff.....in NZ 2.2 Duratorq engine is available but only at entry level...usually sold to tradies' that don't travel very far. In Australia Hilux has outsold Ranger for the past five years and was the most popular selling vehicle in Australia in 2020 with 5572 units versus Fords 3917.. In total sale Toyota sold 17309 units..Ford sold 6306 units..In the mines in Queensland Toyota Hilux or LC70-V8 everywhere..Ford's still a very rare beast
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Is the new 1.9 engine map the same as the 1.9 that has been out for a year or so? Thinking of a change but may just run my 2.5 into the ground. Will get a test drive of the new one, I guess the only way to find out!

It may have been tweaked. I’ve not even seen engine figures on the new model though I’m led to believe they are similar. Only one way to find out might be to take a test drive. I was ruminating on the idea of changing my 2.5 but apart from moving cattle to market and other here and there’s it really isn’t putting many miles on. [/QUOTE]
 

Timbo

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Location
Gods County

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