New long term ley seed mix

[Bald n Grumpy]

Green farm seeds in Gloucestershire might be worth a try, can't comment on the seeds as they're still in the bag waiting for weather/contractor. Very competitive on price though at least a tenner an acre less than some suppliers

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No good if you can't graze it or just reverts back to natural grasses asap.

Best to leave it be.

Most years the fields are dirt for 3 months

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Green farm seeds in Gloucestershire might be worth a try, can't comment on the seeds as they're still in the bag waiting for weather/contractor. Very competitive on price though at least a tenner an acre less than some suppliers

I got seed here for £25/ acre if it's price that drives your wagon
And it's full of clover

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

I got seed here for £25/ acre if it's price that drives your wagon
And it's full of clover

No price does not " drive my wagon". But I like to deal direct with firms who sell their own products not rely on middle men who need to take a cut. And if I need any help or advice I can ring and speak to the man who owns and runs the business not a a salesman

 

[Great In Grass]

No price does not " drive my wagon". But I like to deal direct with firms who sell their own products not rely on middle men who need to take a cut. And if I need any help or advice I can ring and speak to the man who owns and runs the business not a a salesman

I think you will find it's not their own product as such they buy from Barenbrug, DLF, DSV and germinal to name a few. It's their own mixtures which they produce.

 

[Sid]

I got seed here for £25/ acre if it's price that drives your wagon
And it's full of clover

Kent wild white

 

[Jerry]

I think he was off on his holibobs soon, or maybe gone already. I’m sure he’ll get a voice in his head telling him he’s missing a sales opportunity.

low and behold…..email waiting in my in box from him first thing this morning

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

I think you will find it's not their own product as such they buy from Barenbrug, DLF, DSV and germinal to name a few. It's their own mixtures which they produce.

Fair point, when I said "sell their own products" didn't mean that they actually grew the seed because I don't know if they do.
What I actually meant was that they where running their own business

 

[Great In Grass]

Fair point, when I said "sell their own products" didn't mean that they actually grew the seed because I don't know if they do.
What I actually meant was that they where running their own business

I got you, there are very few breeders and growers of grass seed.

Barenbrug I think I'm correct in saying has around 40% of homegrown seed in their mixtures which greatly helps some UK farmers. It also helps keep prices reasonable as the exchange rate doesn't come into play.

 

[Great In Grass]

low and behold…..email waiting in my in box from him first thing this morning

I actually read this thread just before bedtime, I had nightmares because it was too late to reply.

 

[neilo]

I think you will find it's not their own product as such they buy from Barenbrug, DLF, DSV and germinal to name a few. It's their own mixtures which they produce.

Not being tied to a seedhouse in itself could potentially be a good thing. Taking the best varieties for any particular use, from each seedhouse, and leaving the 'filler' varieties out, could produce an outstanding mix.

No one seedhouse has the recc list to themselves, they all have good and 'less good', with some just ignoring the recc lists anyway.

 

[Sid]

Not being tied to a seedhouse in itself could potentially be a good thing. Taking the best varieties for any particular use, from each seedhouse, and leaving the 'filler' varieties out, could produce an outstanding mix.

No one seedhouse has the recc list to themselves, they all have good and 'less good', with some just ignoring the recc lists anyway.

Exactly what I was going to say,but then nothing to stop you buying a bit off each breeders. But probably more expensive than through a seed merchant.

 

[Great In Grass]

Not being tied to a seedhouse in itself could potentially be a good thing. Taking the best varieties for any particular use, from each seedhouse, and leaving the 'filler' varieties out, could produce an outstanding mix.

No one seedhouse has the recc list to themselves, they all have good and 'less good', with some just ignoring the recc lists anyway.

An element of truth in your statement.

But, you are very unlikely to find the most up to date top-performing varieties outside of the breeder's own mixtures (you always keep the best for yourself) in other seed suppliers mixes.

One breeder, I know of reserves certain varieties for only one of their grass seed lines.

 

[Great In Grass]

Exactly what I was going to say,but then nothing to stop you buying a bit off each breeders. But probably more expensive than through a seed merchant.

Good luck with buying direct Sid it's taken me years in some cases to get a direct account with one of the 'big boys'.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

I got you, there are very few breeders and growers of grass seed.

Barenbrug I think I'm correct in saying has around 40% of homegrown seed in their mixtures which greatly helps some UK farmers. It also helps keep prices reasonable as the exchange rate doesn't come into play.

Thanks you obviously know your business
I was a bit pi$$ed at someones response assuming I'd bought on price alone.
Cheaper is not always good but neither is expensive. Hopefully this time next year I will be happy with the deal

 

[Great In Grass]

Thanks you obviously know your business
I was a bit pi$$ed at someones response assuming I'd bought on price alone.
Cheaper is not always good but neither is expensive. Hopefully this time next year I will be happy with the deal

The last thing you should do is ask the price, you need to know what you are buying first!

I can't see why you shouldn't be happy this time next year they have a good range of mixes in their catalogue.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No price does not " drive my wagon". But I like to deal direct with firms who sell their own products not rely on middle men who need to take a cut. And if I need any help or advice I can ring and speak to the man who owns and runs the business not a a salesman

That's your choice ,I work along side the Managing Director at Hurrells seeds they loon after us all ,as he says I'm part of their family , I was bought on board to promote the brand in these parts which I do , not many who have had over 40 years experience in most aspects of farming, dairy sheep beef and arable , along with seeds sales ,
Most of the mixes I sell are sown here on my own farm for farmers to see , that you won't find in the catalogue as they are chosen to suit farms in this area ,
But every farmer is different in his views and thoughts , , I learnt that over many years selling straw, took me ten years to get excepted, now I have to turn new customers away as we have more than enough to do

 

[jondear]

Donata cocksfoot doesn't clump .It's great in a drought had it for 10 years or more .Just added to any mixture.

 

[Great In Grass]

Don't be sad @Sid you've still got me!

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

That's your choice ,I work along side the Managing Director at Hurrells seeds ,as he says I'm part of their family , I was bought on board to promote the brand in these parts which I do , not many who have had over 40 years experience in most aspects of farming, dairy sheep beef and arable , along with seeds sales ,
Most of the mixes I sell are sown here on my own farm for farmers to see , that you won't find in the catalogue as they are chosen to suit farms in this area ,
But every farmer is different in his views and thoughts , , I learnt that over many years selling straw, took me ten years to get excepted, now I have to turn new customers away as we have more than enough to do

All credit to you. I didn't like the fact that you assumed I was stupid enough to buy on price alone, I did just as great in grass said and asked the price of the seeds I had chosen from an online catalogue. The price was just the icing on the cake.