New old gearboxes

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Newholland make a T7 exitus range with a mechanical box but I don't think it's available here. McCormick do a G max range which is similar to Landini Legend techno range. There's still the Same Laser tractors available abroad and their Deutz agrotrac equivalents.

Think I'd rather have a mechanical tractor. Current tractor is semi powershift but usually stays in the same gear from headland to headland, and I don't do much roadwork, and manual boxes do what you want straight away. No pressing buttons 3 or 4 times to drop one gear! No error codes. And they don't leave you stranded across an A road cos the dashboard's lit up like a christmas tree! Like our long gone 8240 once did.
Problem is they wont sell them basic tractors here.
 
A TM Classic would suit me down to the ground. I've had a couple of goes at buying one over the years, but get beaten to it whilst dithering. This suggests that out in the real world there is a limited market for basic tractors, but not enough for mainstream brands to get involved with over 100hp.
I probably do less than 200 hours per year on each tractor. I just need something to start, do the job, and put back in the shed with a battery isolator switched off for a few weeks without fear of ECU's needing power etc. I honestly don't think a couple of hundred hours per year on any Q cab tractor produced since 1976 is going to kill me.
Deere 4040 with Quad range from the last century. Simple to operate and totally reliable. Plus the Sound Gard cab. What more could a chap want?
 

Yale

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Livestock Farmer
Contractor I know had a Valtra N Hi tech,changed his old Case Maxxum for a Valtra N Versu,fancier all button job,kept it a couple of years and chopped it in for a slightly newer N model Hi tech.Has 2x Hi tech now.

He just didn’t see the benefit in the fancy buttons and two extra splits.

We have a Hi tech which is as basic as I would want to be,oil immersed clutch,oil immersed shuttle with incorporated park brake,mechanical gear stick change and three clutch less splits with speed matching.

Does what it says on the tin.
 

ford 7810

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Location
cumbria
Contractor I know had a Valtra N Hi tech,changed his old Case Maxxum for a Valtra N Versu,fancier all button job,kept it a couple of years and chopped it in for a slightly newer N model Hi tech.Has 2x Hi tech now.

He just didn’t see the benefit in the fancy buttons and two extra splits.

We have a Hi tech which is as basic as I would want to be,oil immersed clutch,oil immersed shuttle with incorporated park brake,mechanical gear stick change and three clutch less splits with speed matching.

Does what it says on the tin.
I have two hi tech Ns two gear levers three splits button for clutch full suspension and 50k easy to set up use hydraulic System Would love another new one. Also have 6r JD with that stupid telly screen thing I hate it with a passion and would love to swap it for a new high tech
 
Most manual tractors with a dry clutch that do a bit of work will need replacements every 6 thousand hours or so. 3350 on 13,000hrs recently had its second. Also had brakes at 7,000hrs same as our 6820 and 6930. So they wouldn't be a huge amount cheaper to run and not as nice to drive.
That’s about what a vario lasts
 
Contractor I know had a Valtra N Hi tech,changed his old Case Maxxum for a Valtra N Versu,fancier all button job,kept it a couple of years and chopped it in for a slightly newer N model Hi tech.Has 2x Hi tech now.

He just didn’t see the benefit in the fancy buttons and two extra splits.

We have a Hi tech which is as basic as I would want to be,oil immersed clutch,oil immersed shuttle with incorporated park brake,mechanical gear stick change and three clutch less splits with speed matching.

Does what it says on the tin.
Actually get more gears (32) with the old stick shift Valtras
 
it would prob be illegal to import a new basic tractor without emission control into uk but if you had a worn out old basic tractor you liked,could you import a new engine/transmission/axles all in one piece for it and swap some of your non wearing parts/body panels to the new chassis
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
We can still buy tractors with basic transmissions here. We have bought a couple of John Deere’s made in Mexico with 3 x 4 and 4 x 3 gearboxes but they have power shuttles we also have a Landini 165 with a 6 x 3 transmission and manual shuttle and it’s awful in 8500 hours it has had about 4 clutches could be the drivers but the power shuttles certainly help. I won’t buy another tractor without power shuttle and a clutch button at the least.
 

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