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[ollie989898]

...and nobody mentions twin monitors? I couldn't operate without at least two.

Yes, the chosen editing software is important as they don't usual work on both Apple and Windows machines. Whether the OP needs lightening speed or not depends on what he is editing and how much. The quality of a film depends more on content and interest than fancy effects.

I'll crawl back under my stone now and leave the techno gurus in peace!

I bought a third monitor before I started college, I wouldn't be without it now. It has been absolutely essential, vastly increased ability to work on the fly, researching and working at the same time and still able to listen to music or read emails without interruption, makes working a lot faster.

Decent keyboard and mouse essential, too.

 

[Nearly]

Beginning to regret asking now

4 heifers to buy a PC?

I'm out.

 

[Steevo]

Beginning to regret asking now

I'd highly recommend the PCSpecialist forum. You can tell them what you want, they'll make a bit of a spec for you, you can tweak it, discuss etc.

I found it incredibly helpful to learn about how PCs have moved on since I bought my last one, and I consider myself pretty tech savvy.

 

[Boysground]

I'd highly recommend the PCSpecialist forum. You can tell them what you want, they'll make a bit of a spec for you, you can tweak it, discuss etc.

I found it incredibly helpful to learn about how PCs have moved on since I bought my last one, and I consider myself pretty tech savvy.

As long as you learn to avoid the gamers wanting to spend £3k ? Mine was about £500 had monitors already

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[fandm]

build your own, you will get your arse slapped at a pc shop.
But whatever you do you need to go fast, not ssd that is old tech.
you need a motherboard with a m2 mkey slot or pref 2 slots will make video editing a breeze that is if you have the right gear to go with it.
it is a least 10 times faster than ssd your pc will boot in seconds and close even faster.
even for normal pc work.

 

[Dman2]

4 heifers to buy a PC?

I'm out.

Could always swap 2 Discos for 1

 

[Dman2]

I am not looking for something commercial
Just mess around doing youtube videos.
Old one almost copes but has a habit of crashing, and its windows 7, which as I said before I want to keep but only for 1 purpose.
Had a look on Pc specialist and prices are ok, but far to many options to know what to get

 

[Dman2]

This is my PC`s spec now

 

[Cowabunga]

...and nobody mentions twin monitors? I couldn't operate without at least two.

Yes, the chosen editing software is important as they don't usual work on both Apple and Windows machines. Whether the OP needs lightening speed or not depends on what he is editing and how much. The quality of a film depends more on content and interest than fancy effects.

I'll crawl back under my stone now and leave the techno gurus in peace!

You are quite correct that dual screens are nice to have, but not essential [is anything?] if the screen is big enough.
Speed is relative but instant launches and multitasking is great and waiting for little balls to spin for more than a second or two is very frustrating. So I would put speed of processor, capacity of RAM, speed of storage drives and graphics processors pretty high up the priority list, within reason.

 

[Cowabunga]

build your own, you will get your arse slapped at a pc shop.
But whatever you do you need to go fast, not ssd that is old tech.
you need a motherboard with a m2 mkey slot or pref 2 slots will make video editing a breeze that is if you have the right gear to go with it.
it is a least 10 times faster than ssd your pc will boot in seconds and close even faster.
even for normal pc work.

Aren't you confusing solid state drives [SSD] with mechanical hard disc drives? SSD are available with various bus connectors to suit different motherboards and as external drives. The SSD is not usually the main factor limiting read and write speed, the bus speed is.
Graphics card will have it own processor and RAM but will read and write to the main or external storage media, which will be either the hard disc or solid state drive.

Or am I missing something?

 

[Cowabunga]

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This is my PC`s spec now

On the face of it, that looks like a reasonable specification. Perhaps it is the graphics chip, which is probably on the motherboard, that lets it down?

 

[TechWise]

Aren't you confusing solid state drives [SSD] with mechanical hard disc drives? SSD are available with various bus connectors to suit different motherboards and as external drives. The SSD is not usually the main factor limiting read and write speed, the bus speed is.
Graphics card will have it own processor and RAM but will read and write to the main or external storage media, which will be either the hard disc or solid state drive.

Or am I missing something?

The M2 drives are about the same size as a RAM card but the connector comes out the end. An SSD communicates using SATA which limits its speed, whereas an M2 drive can communicate using PCIe which is much faster. The M2 drive is still a solid state device, so technically still an SSD, just a different shape and different method of communication.

I think there's a lot of misinformation and showmanship out there with PC specs. I have a friend who has just spent an insane amount of money on an intel processor that's really intended for server applications. He insists his PC is better than mine because it's got more cores. Most applications only run on a single core anyway. As you've pointed out, most setups are held back by the memory bus speed to the SSD, even worse for an HDD.

 

[fandm]

Aren't you confusing solid state drives [SSD] with mechanical hard disc drives? SSD are available with various bus connectors to suit different motherboards and as external drives. The SSD is not usually the main factor limiting read and write speed, the bus speed is.
Graphics card will have it own processor and RAM but will read and write to the main or external storage media, which will be either the hard disc or solid state drive.

Or am I missing something?

 

[Cowabunga]

The M2 drives are about the same size as a RAM card but the connector comes out the end. An SSD communicates using SATA which limits its speed, whereas an M2 drive can communicate using PCIe which is much faster. The M2 drive is still a solid state device, so technically still an SSD, just a different shape and different method of communication.

I think there's a lot of misinformation and showmanship out there with PC specs. I have a friend who has just spent an insane amount of money on an intel processor that's really intended for server applications. He insists his PC is better than mine because it's got more cores. Most applications only run on a single core anyway. As you've pointed out, most setups are held back by the memory bus speed to the SSD, even worse for an HDD.

As far as I was aware, no matter what bus it uses, a SSD is a SSD. There are multiple types of buses and housings, including external that may use USB C or Thunderbolt. Some are faster than others and durability/longevity/rewrites also vary.

I see no other types of storage drives ever mentioned these days, only hard drives [mechanical], SSD, optical disc drives, and peripheral USB dongles and various SD or other storage cards.

 

[fandm]

Not confusing ssd drives with sata drives or ide drives.
SSd is now 6x faster than sata drives
m2 mkey is upto 32x faster than a sata drive.
therefore will process video that much faster. And if you shop around you could get it cheaper than a SSd
So why spend money on something that is nearly obsolete.
Chinese server board google it about £59
server ram.that means it is registered. and is very cheap compared ddr4 but not quite as fast but you could end up with 128 gig instead of 16 for the same money
a good graphics card
you may need a new psu if your old one is not upto it.

 

[TechWise]

As far as I was aware, no matter what bus it uses, a SSD is a SSD. There are multiple types of buses and housings, including external that may use USB C or Thunderbolt. Some are faster than others and durability/longevity/rewrites also vary.

I see no other types of storage drives ever mentioned these days, only hard drives [mechanical], SSD, optical disc drives, and peripheral USB dongles and various SD or other storage cards.

Yes, if it has no moving parts, then by definition it is a Solid State Drive, regardless of its size, shape and choice of communication interface. There are lots of ways to talk to the memory blocks though. As you point out, it could be through SATA, it could be through PCIe which is faster and common on M2 drives, you could put it in an external box and talk to it over USB or Thunderbolt....

 

[Storeman]

build your own, you will get your arse slapped at a pc shop.
But whatever you do you need to go fast, not ssd that is old tech.
you need a motherboard with a m2 mkey slot or pref 2 slots will make video editing a breeze that is if you have the right gear to go with it.
it is a least 10 times faster than ssd your pc will boot in seconds and close even faster.
even for normal pc work.

Your last statement isn't quite right.
M.2 is not faster than SATA SSD. PCIe SSD can be 50% faster than SATA SSD, but you need the right druves to achieve the faster speeds.

 

[Boysground]

I have a PCIe ssd in my pc. It’s definitely quick not sure I would notice the difference from a usual ssd though. Price was little different so I thought it would be best.

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[ollie989898]

If you are doing video editing you need a lot of RAM. I have not done it but I am going on what I have been told by two other people who are in the business of video editing. RAM holds the file as it is processed: the more the merrier. 4K changes everything because the workload is quadrupled compared to regular HD.

I didn't want to go into specifics about solid state drives at it gets confusing fast. Any new MOBO will be already equipped with the relevant interface or you could just go out and buy a PCIe drive anyway, as others have mentioned the pricing has become parity now and in time SATA drives will become a rarity I would think.

Until we know what software is being used and what format of video is involved, how well it will utilise a GPU I have no idea.

The specs for the existing computer are basically run of the mill with onboard graphics. If this is the laptop in question just get a local PC shop to replace it's hard drive with a solid state drive and continue using it for everyday work. That will make it as fast as it ever will be for normal work but it's never going to be that hot at video editing for which you need a half decent rig.

 

[Dman2]

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