New quarantine

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by Benn, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    You are mixing up toxo and campylobacter.

    Sheep cannot pass toxo infection from one to another - has to go via a cat.
     
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  2. GTB

    GTB Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion, wales
    OK thanks I stand corrected. Think I better tell our vet too ;)
     
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  3. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Mine is always mostly in 50 dose (100ml) vials. IIRC the smaller bottles are even dearer per dose.
     
  4. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    But the old vet advice was always to mix naive young sheep with aborted ewes to let them get natural immunity, as @GTB posted.:scratchhead: Very risky practice anyway IMO, unless you know for certain what the abortion agent involved is.
     
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  5. unlacedgecko

    unlacedgecko Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Like the practice of putting cull sows in with bought in maiden gilts.
     
  6. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    That is the advice with campylobacter abortion (if you don't want to import vaccine).

    Moredun should know:

    Sheep become infected if they eat feed (pasture, concentrates) or drink water contaminated with cat faeces than contain Toxoplasma oocysts. Unlike chlamydial abortion, toxoplasmosis is not directly transmitted between sheep http://www.moredun.org.uk/research/...rmation/disease-summaries/toxoplasmosis-sheep
     
  7. jemski

    jemski Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Interesting. They told me it's the only size it comes in
     
  8. AvonValleyFarmer

    Location:
    Leicestershire
    Sorry to hijack the thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

    I have 100 sheep coming later today and cannot house that many for a few days as is recommended. Would I be best to leave them in a dirty field where my lambs have been?
     
  9. jemski

    jemski Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    This time I've got 2 X 50 and 1 X 20 dose bottles

    It's £4.53 a shot. Ouch.
     
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  10. I used Cevac, and vaccinated my flock for first time last year against Enzi.

    I tag my homebred ewes with different colour tags each year. I drew off the 2 oldest age groups (4 and 5 years old)... and I chose not to vaccinate these ewes. I didn't have an abortion storm, my vet described it as a 'grumble', so felt it was low risk. Results have been good, and it reduced the cost of the initial vaccination.
     
  11. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    yes - dirty field.
     
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  12. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    @bovine can you recommend a decent text covering ovine parasites? I've just had a friend staying - equine vet - who studied at Massey in NZ, he loathes ag work but has advised me to buy 'The Sheep: Health, Disease & Production' since he studied under one of the authors and found the text a very good reference indeed. I can get a copy sent up from NZ, but if there is a particularly good text from the UK and centred on the UK I would rather have that.
     
  13. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    Your easiest thing is to download the SCOPS manual for free

    I have imported a copy of that sheep book, but haven't had time to look at it as yet.
     
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  14. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Wouldn't any book be out of date in a short time? Things move on so quickly as more research takes place and 'expert' advice is changed.
     
  15. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    Yes and no. The majority of the life cycle stuff etc has changed very little in the last 50 years. If you want to learn how they breed, live and transmit then a book will be fine. Advice does change, but not that quickly. If you followed SCOPS version 1 you wouldn't be that far away 10 years later.
     
  16. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    Thanks for that, have just done so - not having realised before that there is a whole manual to download...
     
  17. Dectomax; will the worm dosage rate (1ml/50kg) also cover for scab (lower dosage rate)?
     
  18. Jim75

    Jim75 Member

    Location:
    Inverness
    No not going by the label. Can't remember of the top of my head but is slightly different. Is scab prevention 1ml/33kg??
     
  19. Yeah 33kg. 1ml/33kg cover for worms AND scab then?
     
  20. Jim75

    Jim75 Member

    Location:
    Inverness
    I think so @bovine
     

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