New Red Tractor crap.

DanniAgro

Member
Just read that Eustace has said fertiliser use must be reduced on crops in order to meet our CO2 commitments. We can only hope that producers in other countries not covered by these sort of regulations will nobly reduce their use so as not to compete with us unfairly....
Or will our great government subsidise us if we do have less profit as a result...
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Just read that Eustace has said fertiliser use must be reduced on crops in order to meet our CO2 commitments. We can only hope that producers in other countries not covered by these sort of regulations will nobly reduce their use so as not to compete with us unfairly....
Or will our great government subsidise us if we do have less profit as a result...
Not sure what George Eustace’s speech has to do with RT. I don’t think they are in need of any extra help alienating farmers!
If George Eustace has said what is claimed then it is not really much of a surprise as current UK Ag policy is butterflies, badgers, bees and birds. Food production doesn’t even get a mention at the bottom of the page.
No they won’t subsidize us, Boris hs been told we can maintain yields without these nasty chemicals and he believes it. (Actually I don’t think he couldn’t care less if he tried) As far as I can see we are looking at a very different future to what we have been used to.
 
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DanniAgro

Member
The reason I mentioned Red Tractor was that it feels like another way in which foreign growers will not be hampered by regulations, whilst we will face restrictions on our inputs, yet again reducing profits on growing crops etc. Of course imported grain will not be checked to ensure that it was grown using less nitrogen than previously.
 

crazy_bull

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
The reason I mentioned Red Tractor was that it feels like another way in which foreign growers will not be hampered by regulations, whilst we will face restrictions on our inputs, yet again reducing profits on growing crops etc. Of course imported grain will not be checked to ensure that it was grown using less nitrogen than previously.

That’s no different to labour laws or tax breaks, subsidies or grants etc in different countries vs ours. Never is a level playing field around the world.
C B
 
The reason I mentioned Red Tractor was that it feels like another way in which foreign growers will not be hampered by regulations, whilst we will face restrictions on our inputs, yet again reducing profits on growing crops etc. Of course imported grain will not be checked to ensure that it was grown using less nitrogen than previously.
I remember years ago in Denmark, you had limits on the amount of fertliser you could apply and had to have a fertliser plan in place which limited how much you could buy, so other countries in Europe also have their regulations. I also read on here, about Dutch dairy farmers sending slurry to Germany to be spread on lorries, as they had limits to what they could apply on their fields, so again their own regulations.
 

DanniAgro

Member
I remember years ago in Denmark, you had limits on the amount of fertliser you could apply and had to have a fertliser plan in place which limited how much you could buy, so other countries in Europe also have their regulations. I also read on here, about Dutch dairy farmers sending slurry to Germany to be spread on lorries, as they had limits to what they could apply on their fields, so again their own regulations.
I appreciate that the countries you're talking about have introduced restrictions, but as a mainly arable farmer the countries setting the price of corn etc for me are South America, Ukraine, Australia and the US mid west, and I haven't seen any reports that they are restricting inputs in any way.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Location
Cumbria
So he wants to reduce CO2 emissions by reducing N fert use.

Hasn't his government just paid out massive subsidy to help a private company produce more CO2, and more fertiliser.

Which is it? Do they want us to use more fertiliser, or less fertiliser. I'm confused. :scratchhead:
That's the beauty of politics, you get to adopt hundreds of diametrically opposed notions all at the same time. I think they'd claim pragmatism. I do have a tiny shred of sympathy actually. Imagine listening to utter morons constantly every day all pushing their own one-eyed foolish agenda, and then trying and failing to please everyone. I remain utterly amazed at why anyone would want to be a politician.
 

Lofty

Member
Location
Worcs
So he wants to reduce CO2 emissions by reducing N fert use.

Hasn't his government just paid out massive subsidy to help a private company produce more CO2, and more fertiliser.

Which is it? Do they want us to use more fertiliser, or less fertiliser. I'm confused. :scratchhead:
This made me chuckle a couple of weeks ago when it was in the news. It seems to me that no one has connected the dirty CO2 that comes out of car exhaust pipes with the nice clean CO2 that comes out of a bottle of lemonade as being the same stuff!
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
This made me chuckle a couple of weeks ago when it was in the news. It seems to me that no one has connected the dirty CO2 that comes out of car exhaust pipes with the nice clean CO2 that comes out of a bottle of lemonade as being the same stuff!
Ironic, but obviously just making fun of it really, as the CO2 demamd is critical.

CF know how to play the government and the farners for max profit.
 

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