What I've been quoted....
new seed prices
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4course
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- north yorks
its what the market will bear, fear ,marketing, and gullibility
As above plus a degree of working backwards from a rough cost of applying the foliar option.....
However I will say that having some on spring barley seed this year worked well with a couple of new outlying fields, soils sample showed they would be very hungry for it and then we had poor spraying conditions post emergence, another bit that had untreated seed looked sick as (until we eventually got the foliar on) and has almost certainly lost yield as a result.
However I will say that having some on spring barley seed this year worked well with a couple of new outlying fields, soils sample showed they would be very hungry for it and then we had poor spraying conditions post emergence, another bit that had untreated seed looked sick as (until we eventually got the foliar on) and has almost certainly lost yield as a result.
4course
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- north yorks
next question do you know at what rate or how much manganese is being applied for yhe £40 ,suspect the answer is no
FarmerBruce
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- Yorkshire
Just don't use it. It's rubbish.
I do when I FSS but not when I buy.....
Disagree. Might not be economic but definitely has an effect.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Whilst I am not going to divulge cost prices on here I can tell you it is nowhere near as cheap as you might think.... And even at £40 per tonne (with say 175kg/ha) that is £7 per ha, available from the beginning and right where the plant needs it. And I am not having a go at the spay alternatives just making a point about seed treatment as an option.
I am not sure about comparing seed treatments with foliar applications of Manganese but we use i-Man seed treatment from de Sangosse which delivers 450g/tonne and allows uptake through the seed coat and root hairs which leads to a higher amount of Mn reaching the growing plant.
I am not sure about comparing seed treatments with foliar applications of Manganese but we use i-Man seed treatment from de Sangosse which delivers 450g/tonne and allows uptake through the seed coat and root hairs which leads to a higher amount of Mn reaching the growing plant.
£7/ha is a bif spend on Mang - especially if thats juts the start with folior spring applications to follow
My soils are very mang hungry and I spent £3.50/ha last year on foliar application (WW)
too much "its only so much extra per Ha" goes on in ag - the same is said about Deter vs an insecticide and Latitude etc on seed but add it all together and you are setting out to grow a loss making crop before you start IMO if not careful
I'd be interested to know how this de Sangosse product compares to say Yara Mantrac? This is a 500g/L product with the label stating seed application rates of 2-6L/t... Last price I saw it was about £5/L so £10 to £30/T (and I'm sure this or similar can be bought much cheaper than that) but for arguments sake at this price the 2L rate is supplying 1000g Mn per tonne at £10?
Am I missing something here?
Like I said previously however it was worth having Mn on the SB seed in some fields given the conditions post emergence - this of course is hindsight though!
Am I missing something here?
Like I said previously however it was worth having Mn on the SB seed in some fields given the conditions post emergence - this of course is hindsight though!
4course
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- north yorks
smoke and mirrors
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- Snodland kent
Quoted nearly £580 for 5ha pack Belfy as Bozooka has gone, Refugio deter dressed.
FarmerBruce
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- Yorkshire
We were talked in to using it on some very mang hungry soils a few years ago. 'Guaranteed ' it would take it into the spring! Well I can 'guarantee' it did not do that and foliar applications were required in the backend as is our normal practice! Complete waste of money
You do need an autumn application in severe deficiency areas and you were mis sold.
well my seed will be costing me whatever spot grain price is in August / September plus royalties and a few £ in labour to run it through our cleaner
plan to farm save the lot this year and wont even SP dress unless tests throw up a very good reason to do so
plan to farm save the lot this year and wont even SP dress unless tests throw up a very good reason to do so
4course
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- north yorks
if the proposed tff buying line takes off sellers may have to divulge as things will become more transparent , at £40 a50% plus mark up seems a lot
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Sprayer 1
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- Tarporley, Cheshire.
Does Deter have effect on deterring slugs?
6820
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- Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Our Orwell has avg, 3.22 ton acre on light sand. Very happy seeing how dry it has been. Looked exceptional before it dried up. Will plant again next year.
FarmerBruce
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- Yorkshire
No not one bit in our experience.