New small drum mower ?

[andybk]

Small farm here , been happy with our old PZ165 just one incident where we lost the saucer on a tree root , are all the new various copys , same design ie sealed gearbox bearings , removable cover (4 bolts ) or any to avoid for being cheaply made .thanks

 

[grainboy]

Second hand I know, but have 2 Twose mowers available, a 165 and a 185 both in very good condition m.

 

[Martin Holden]

Second hand I know, but have 2 Twose mowers available, a 165 and a 185 both in very good condition m.

They will be SIP made or if young enough they were made by a Turkish company that bought all tooling and design rights from SIP some years ago.

 

[grainboy]

Isn’t everything made by someone Else ?

 

[startinghandle]

Machinery firm at Kington but can't remember name are agents for
5'6" drum mower same as km22 but don't know if still available because of brexit

 

[neilo]

Machinery firm at Kington but can't remember name are agents for
5'6" drum mower same as km22 but don't know if still available because of brexit

SJH Machinery? SJH Machinery | Farm Machinery Sales Herefordshire

 

[Wellytrack]

Don’t buy a copy. Buy a PZ or the new version of it.

 

[Boohoo]

Don’t buy a copy. Buy a PZ or the new version of it.

That would be a Kuhn then, they're too expensive for what they are. I was quoted £3100 for a shop soiled (3 year old) 6ft PZ190, collected from the dealer in a crate. I didn't ask for a built and delivered price!

 

[grainboy]

Don’t understand logic,
Don’t buy a copy ?
where are PZ made, ?
PZ manufacture probably subbed out to cheaper source,
Recently bought new Television, Panasonic, made in Czechia,
White goods, Beko and Zanussi made in same factory in Turkey, but different price range and intended market,

 

[Wellytrack]

That would be a Kuhn then, they're too expensive for what they are. I was quoted £3100 for a shop soiled (3 year old) 6ft PZ190, collected from the dealer in a crate. I didn't ask for a built and delivered price!

All those multitudes of green ones with white or yellow skirts will fracture and split everywhere though, the headstock geometry is not even right for hitching up to tractors over 90hp in size.

 

[Wellytrack]

Don’t understand logic,
Don’t buy a copy ?
where are PZ made, ?
PZ manufacture probably subbed out to cheaper source,
Recently bought new Television, Panasonic, made in Czechia,
White goods, Beko and Zanussi made in same factory in Turkey, but different price range and intended market,

Compare a 40 year old PZ to a TALAXAMAZATOROV

 

[grainboy]

Don’t suppose a 165 or 185 really requires over 90 hp, there are still small tractors about.

 

[Wellytrack]

Don’t suppose a 165 or 185 really requires over 90 hp, there are still small tractors about.

That’s true, but it would be counter productive to cost saving if you had to go spend 5 grand to buy a small tractor.

 

[Boohoo]

All those multitudes of green ones with white or yellow skirts will fracture and split everywhere though, the headstock geometry is not even right for hitching up to tractors over 90hp in size.

I don't think the headstock geometry is any different on the Kuhn. They're all designed for 60hp tractors. The larger models may suit 100hp plus tractors but you'd have to have more money than sense to buy one of them.

 

[grainboy]

There is a market for every thing, and small drum mowers are not aimed at 100 hp users, more your 20 acres of hay market,

 

[andybk]

Don’t buy a copy. Buy a PZ or the new version of it.

I bought pz haybob 360 build quality is awful compared to the old pz200 that's been left out for prob 20+ years ,360 is rusty as **** and just about recoverable that's why I asked original question

 

[Wellytrack]

I bought pz haybob 360 build quality is awful compared to the old pz200 that's been left out for prob 20+ years ,360 is rusty as **** and just about recoverable that's why I asked original question

Paint was better prior to mid 90’s, Look at an old Kuhn FC from Circa 1990, she will be dull but the paint will still be there.

 

[Wellytrack]

There is a market for every thing, and small drum mowers are not aimed at 100 hp users, more your 20 acres of hay market,

This is true, but a lot of part time folks will just have one fairly decent 100hp loader tractor that does everything.

 

[Still Farming]

Samaza good but seem to of gone quiet of late?
Possibly building for other "makes",these days???

 

[andybk]

Samaza good but seem to of gone quiet of late?
Possibly building for other "makes",these days???

Spares easy to get ? Or is it standard pz bits