New spray but no licence.

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Then the sprayer would be liable, whether he had the required pieces of paper or not.

Do you make a point of popping round to check on your neighbours qualifications & certificates?

I dare say a lot of us may know a few that we might suspect are doing all sorts, but we wouldn’t start a thread about it on a public forum.

Nah. We all use contractors.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I can still remember 2,4,5T being sold as Brushwood killer, years after Vietnam had been defoliated with it (Agent Orange) and it had been banned for farm usage.

Because it was not the 2,4-D or 2,4,6T that was the problem with Agent Orange, it was the impurities in it, Dioxans, that caused the problems. The Americans could not be bothered to purify it to a high standard just to dump it on some jungle containing Vietcong.
Much of the various actives used by the USA in Vietnam, termed agent Orange were purchased from across the world causing a world wide shortage. Italy was one of the biggest producers of these materials and of course had its own problems from Dioxin.
Agent orange was mainly a combination of 245,T and 24,D combined with Diesel rather than Water as is more normal in farm application. This was to give better penetration of shiny leaved plants.
The total usage is unclear as totals are confused between concentrates and diluted materials.
 
Ah, that would be me, don't worry I only use homeopathic weedkillers, they fall outside the scope of pesticide legislation.

Oh yes. The infusion of lemon juice with goji berries. Good on the rushes and stops brambles that pop up on the fence line. I'm always glad I have used that when I am stopped by the dog walkers asking about toxicity.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
Puzzled with your comment....
Why did you not simply do a proper PA 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 course instead of a pretty poor, IMO, substitute? Then there is no issue with insurance or application or simply doing the right thing. Seems like the chemical sellers need a kick up the arse. Yes I can buy a loada stuff using my holding number but I did a heap of PA's a while ago. It was fun and informative and I'm a better spray applicator for the course.
I'm using my quals again for insect infestations so they are a useful tool in the box.
SS
puzzled by your reply there is no licence to buy only to use
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
There are plenty of laws out there that the authorities don't enforce (and in 99% of the cases never intended to) because they are using them as a safety net.

SFP/BPS is in the same league -- they give you money so they can take it away if you're naughty. Far more efficient than trying to sue/fine someone who doesn't have it in the first place.

For these laws, you're only guilty if they catch you and they won't even try if you behave reasonably. Ever driven 65mph in a 60mph zone? It may apply in towns but not where the traffic is light or where there isn't a problem.
 

Bogweevil

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There are plenty of laws out there that the authorities don't enforce (and in 99% of the cases never intended to) because they are using them as a safety net.

SFP/BPS is in the same league -- they give you money so they can take it away if you're naughty. Far more efficient than trying to sue/fine someone who doesn't have it in the first place.

For these laws, you're only guilty if they catch you and they won't even try if you behave reasonably. Ever driven 65mph in a 60mph zone? It may apply in towns but not where the traffic is light or where there isn't a problem.

All true, but if you get caught the implications can be tricky and they check up on you more often than others. When checking up takes place as often as not some other misdemeanour comes to light and it just gets worse. Best to just the job right first time and get on with other more remunerative things.
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
You can’t buy 360g/l glyphosate in a garden centre though, I’d happily drink what the garden centres sell...
You can easily buy this from he internet. I have done this a a few times in 5l drums. No body has ever asked to seem my PA1,2 and 6. I use it for our local rec ground. The committee have copies of my tickets though.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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