New telehandler time

[Lakesdigger]

Swapped a Schaffer 8090t for one just under year ago. Still have a 9530t which moved to mine to feed, scrape and bed cows, JCB is at my brothers yard and does mainly grain and straw handling but also buckraking and cleaning sheds. Dualtech very good, does marry hydrostatic and powershift very well. Powershift kicks in over 20kph, below that it's all hydro, no holding on the brakes when loading grain or palletwork. Much nicer cab than Schaffer for long day, visibility isn't as bad as I feared with low boom height and good mirrors and we fitted reversing camera. Towing capability is a big bonus compared with Schaffer, although it seems to be sorer on diesel but I'd guess it doing more work so maybe not that accurate. My brother is main driver, my main gripe is the joystick but think that's more familiarity with Schaffer one than anything else. Black paintwork is already peeling in a couple of places is another peeve!

Don't worry about the jcb black paint its totally normal they may as well use shoe polish it would probably stay on as long

 

[casper74]

Which manitou? What was the first figure? 7?

630 I think it was. Yes before trade in

 

[ColinV6]

630 I think it was. Yes before trade in

a sizeable increase then. Ours was in the early 60’s 3 years ago for a 630 elite vario.

 

[BlackBear]

Has anyone given the new Claas/Liebherr machines a go? I know when it comes to shovels, diggers, dozers, etc. Liebherr are right up there but there last attempt at a telehandler wasn’t very successful, would be interested to see how folk that have have had them on demo got on. TIA

 

[stevedave]

Has anyone given the new Claas/Liebherr machines a go? I know when it comes to shovels, diggers, dozers, etc. Liebherr are right up there but there last attempt at a telehandler wasn’t very successful, would be interested to see how folk that have have had them on demo got on. TIA

I've got one. It's a 67 plate so one of the early ones.

 

[BlackBear]

I've got one. It's a 67 plate so one of the early ones.

How have you gotten on with it? Got a quote back from our Liebherr Area Sales man and it’s a good bit cheaper than the equivalent JCB machine.

 

[iwa]

We've a 33.7 and you just listed all the same issues good that they've sorted it cutting drive when going into a heap we never managed to get ours to stop that. The 33.7 is sold now and there's a new tier 5 35.7 on route soon. Hopefully they've sorted all the niggles out. Probably not. Maybe they will of just added some more.

Same as with our 33.7

2000hrs on it now, it's been reliable, better than the 2 32.6's we had before. Had to get them to alter the gearbox softwear as it would cut the drive when it sensed too much load such as if you were pushing into a heap of soil. Softwear upgrade solved that. I really like the cab suspension. The auto revs is good for some jobs and not for others. The safety boom cut out is far too sensitive but I think that's probably the same on most makes now though. Couple of annoying things, the boom slows down at the end of travel which works really well when pulling the boom in but when pushing the boom out it slows down with about 3ft to go and just creeps out the rest of the way. Really annoying when doing jobs where your booming out a lot such as pushing grain up. Also when you put it into neutral tje revs drop to tickover for 2 seconds even if you have your foot to the floor. Annoying when you want to keep the revs up to work the hydraulics. 2 seconds seems forever! I also find it really noisy in the road, it's transmission noise, which I thought having cab suspension is would be quieter as the cab is more remote from the rest of the machine. In summary I like it but I don't love it as much as I did the 32.6 before. Going back to a machine without cab suspension would be a hard decision now though.

same as with our 33.7 dead man switch not a problem after a day. Dealer fitted some sorta resister on the the return pipe from the transmission helped the road noise a lot must get them to update software if that sorts the drive cutting out because buckaraking is a real skill with that problem a home mod on the back axle micro switches sorts out over loading boom freeze within reason… agree nice machine to work in with no major problems but just not as handy and visibility compared to the old 32.6

 

[stevedave]

How have you gotten on with it? Got a quote back from our Liebherr Area Sales man and it’s a good bit cheaper than the equivalent JCB machine.

We bought it 12 months old with 800 ish hrs for a 10000 hr JCB 536-60. I wish we'd kept the JCB. Reliability has been OK but it is now in with an intermittent electrical problem. Its a hydrostatic and not a good one (if such a thing exists) the hydraulics are fast but jerky and not easy to control. Visibility isn't great it has a curved windscreen but the safety cage makes it worse then the old JCB, it also has a glass bottom door but some genius covered it with a sticker. The paint work is OK better then the JCB but that isn't saying much but the general build quality isn't up to much. I know many people on here will disagree with me but I think that the JCB is still the market leader and if you don't like a JCB you can get shot of it any where for good money which no other make can say. If I was you I would go JCB.

 

[BlackBear]

We bought it 12 months old with 800 ish hrs for a 10000 hr JCB 536-60. I wish we'd kept the JCB. Reliability has been OK but it is now in with an intermittent electrical problem. Its a hydrostatic and not a good one (if such a thing exists) the hydraulics are fast but jerky and not easy to control. Visibility isn't great it has a curved windscreen but the safety cage makes it worse then the old JCB, it also has a glass bottom door but some genius covered it with a sticker. The paint work is OK better then the JCB but that isn't saying much but the general build quality isn't up to much. I know many people on here will disagree with me but I think that the JCB is still the market leader and if you don't like a JCB you can get shot of it any where for good money which no other make can say. If I was you I would go JCB.

Bullet dodged there then! But leaves me with a bit of a conundrum as I detest the modern day JCBs we get in on hire! If only they still made them like our old 520-50, the 531-70s we get in occasionally now are nowhere near as well built or reliable as the old girls we’ve found. Not a good look when a hire machine that’s yet to clock 500 hours has to get recovered so it can have it’s transmission looked at as it’s lost drive in 3rd gear! Has anyone tried the new range of Cat telehandlers? We love our old TH63 even with it’s problems, I know Cat has partnered with JLG since those days which buggered their reputation but I can’t get a straight answer as to whether or not that’s still the case with these new ones. Any ideas? TIA

 

[stevedave]

We haven't tried one of the new JCBs so I can't comment on what their like but I think the older ones take some beating. The 536-60 was probably the best machine we bought.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Found a lovely 35.7 that’s not had a hard life by the looks of things. I was leaning towards new but this is a good looking deal with my old girl thrown in there. Very nice place to sit and far comfier than mine right now, they seem to have done a lot for driver comfort and much better on the road, still gutless in that respect but I know what we are dealing with like that.
Anything to note on the 35.7s?
Also seemed a lot of features in the cab I wasn’t sure on so will no doubt have questions to ask on that

 

[JJT]

Found a lovely 35.7 that’s not had a hard life by the looks of things. I was leaning towards new but this is a good looking deal with my old girl thrown in there. Very nice place to sit and far comfier than mine right now, they seem to have done a lot for driver comfort and much better on the road, still gutless in that respect but I know what we are dealing with like that.
Anything to note on the 35.7s?
Also seemed a lot of features in the cab I wasn’t sure on so will no doubt have questions to ask on that

Has it got cab suspension? We've a 35.7 2yr old, done 2000hrs. Been reliable so far, couple of bits done under warranty but nothing major. Far better visibility than our neighbours 33.7 as the cab it mounted a bit higher up.

 

[puntabrava]

Is a shame all this talk of foreign kit when JCB is as good as anything, I am all for buying the best that is available but with telehandlers I believe JCB worth a shout.

 

[Speedstar]

Is a shame all this talk of foreign kit when JCB is as good as anything, I am all for buying the best that is available but with telehandlers I believe JCB worth a shout.

to much of the JCB is made in china now , new ones are as soft as hell

 

[puntabrava]

to much of the JCB is made in china now

As is the instrument you made the post with. JCB build the engine here, make the chassis, employ thousands.
It’s about time we become more French.

 

[Drillman]

I've just been pricing up a Manitou from Russell's and a Kramer from RFS and Cornthwaites, mind boggling figures and can't get 1 till March/April

I priced a new manitou up back in spring as our 12 year old one was having a few too many days off for my liking.

we now have a 28 year old matbro in the yard as well as plan B as it was a considerably cheaper option.

 

[ollie989898]

Bullet dodged there then! But leaves me with a bit of a conundrum as I detest the modern day JCBs we get in on hire! If only they still made them like our old 520-50, the 531-70s we get in occasionally now are nowhere near as well built or reliable as the old girls we’ve found. Not a good look when a hire machine that’s yet to clock 500 hours has to get recovered so it can have it’s transmission looked at as it’s lost drive in 3rd gear! Has anyone tried the new range of Cat telehandlers? We love our old TH63 even with it’s problems, I know Cat has partnered with JLG since those days which buggered their reputation but I can’t get a straight answer as to whether or not that’s still the case with these new ones. Any ideas? TIA

Try a Kramer.

 

[ollie989898]

As is the instrument you made the post with. JCB build the engine here, make the chassis, employ thousands.
It’s about time we become more French.

JCB are just trading on their name these days and they are pricey compared to the competition. Merlo, Claas, Kramer, better machines overall.

 

[stevedave]

JCB are just trading on their name these days and they are pricey compared to the competition. Merlo, Claas, Kramer, better machines overall.

I'm not a fan of hydrosatics and haven't driven a Merlo for a while now but the Claas and Kramer aren't in the same league as our old 536-60 which I think was the best JCB made. The new JCBs I haven't tried yet but I can't think they dropped the ball that badly.

 

[fermerboy]

JCB are just trading on their name these days and they are pricey compared to the competition. Merlo, Claas, Kramer, better machines overall.

To a point I agree, but when it comes time to trade in a used JCB, they hold their value better than all the rest by a fair margin, which makes the overall ownership cheaper per hour. Given that they are actually not any better nowadays, I do wonder if that will change.

Cost per hour is ther reason we keep buying another, plus our dealer is only 7miles away, and JCB can get me spare parts into my dealer yard next morning before 8.00am if ordered before 4pm.
Try that with a Kramer/Merlo/Manitou, my mate has been waiting for a mirror for his new Kramer for over two months which doesn't instill faith if its something serious, nice loader though.
What telehandler do you run Ollie?