New thread ideas.

[multi power]

yes i the irish is a little bigger

http://sizes.com/units/acre_irish.htm


http://sizes.com/units/acre_cunningham.htm

 

[Major]

I'd be interested to know about medications and practices that go hand in hand with them. I stayed in SF quite a lot a few years ago and I'd forever be cracking up at cartons of milk that had 'NO FECKIN HORMONES IN THIS YO!" emblazoned ont side and then there's the whole organic thing I hear a lot about on Facebook from my American chums.

Oh an' Why does anything from Trader Joe's not last more than 20 minutes before it starts growing mould? I'm remembering a festering Pumpkin Pie here and curdled milk...

 

[aggravated farmer]

That's great, a daily diary is would like, others may prefer something else



In the early 19th Century the Inn was owned by John Jones, Tirbach who was the leader of a group of Welsh emigrants who were the first to settle in Jackson and Gallia counties in southeast Ohio, USA.

These settlers reached America in 1818, and during the following two decades over 3,000 emigrants followed them from the rural villages of central Ceredigion.

The original group of settlers became quite well-known and they are still referred to as the 1818 Welsh.

Tirbach is my home and to be visited by American Decendents in 2018 as one of three celebrations of that year

I took that from the website of our old village pub, don't know if it's any interest to you

Anymore info on that, could you email me? I'm a history buff

 

[aggravated farmer]

I'd be interested in learning about the livestock logistics and marketing

can you explain more about marketing and logistics? We don't have much to do with marketing milk or cheese, etc.

 

[aggravated farmer]

Nothing forgetting the pests you have problems with. Rodents, birds and suchlike

Starlings, crows, raccoons, deer, extreme left wingers

 

[JP1]

can you explain more about marketing and logistics? We don't have much to do with marketing milk or cheese, etc.

The fat cattle, are they sold direct for slaughter or go via a cattle sale yard , a dealer or a direct marketing co-op?

Your cull cattle, what happens with them?

If you have surplus calves or want one to foster on, how do you get them?

Do you transport your own stock on / off or hire a hauler?

 

[aggravated farmer]

Sounds like a brilliant idea. What sort of parlour? Can you do bull beef? Looks pretty flat around you, do you have drainage problems? Sorry, so many questions, but really interested in how we are similar and how we differ.
I get the feeling that farmers have a pretty good press in the USA as oppose to here - is that true?

Lots of good questions. We have a 38 year old side open 2x5 parlor. very out dated, but it works. bull beef? as in sending a bull to auction? then yes. Some drainage problems occur. however We have spent a lot of money systemically tiling ground in the past decade. We also farm on variety of ground types. From dark topsoils, to clays, to sand. All have their positives and negatives and I can get into that. Some flat ground, some rolling a little bit.

 

[Blaithin]

Just to be the odd duck out I'd be interested in beekeeping stuff

Also have you ever looked into any anaerobic digestion or similar, especially since you're considering putting in a new parlour? I've actually never seen this come up on this forum which is odd considering all the dairy but then again... I don't know much about dairy so tend to trickle out of those discussions

 

[aggravated farmer]

that sounds like a lot of acres for 170 milkers, also sounds a lot of cattle to be milking only 170, how old are the steers when finished? do you keep all the hefiers?

We keep all females. Sell a few bulls raised to beef to some friends of ours (one friend lost everything in a barn fire this past year and we donated a couple to him). steers are at 20-22 months. depends how soon they finish. Lots of grain farming here too, but we do a lot for the cattle.

 

[aggravated farmer]

when you say corn that is maize sigage yes , how much t can you guys get per acre , are US acres the same as UK does any one know , can you tell us what cows get in TMR and what yearly milk yeald is please

Acreage doesn't change to my knowledge. Its a universal measurement, but I could be wrong. Corn is maize. If you are talking by bushel we averaged at 200 per acre this year. Having lows at 170 and highs at 250. TMR is a mixture of corn and hay silage mostly, also we add in dry ground corn, high moisture corn, bean meal, water (in summer to keep moisture), straw, minerals, cottonseed. Yearly milk yield? I'd say we averaged 17,000 daily this year. thats 6,205,000 pounds of milk or ( I rounded the number of pounds to a gallon by 8 pounds a gallon) 775,625 gallons.

 

[aggravated farmer]

That sounds like a great idea, it's good to see how the rest of the world farm's, would love to see it my self some day.
You say u setaside 20 acres for manure?? What's this for ? I'm maybe being stupid but can't figure that one out.

spreading sh!t

 

[aggravated farmer]

I'd be interested to know about medications and practices that go hand in hand with them. I stayed in SF quite a lot a few years ago and I'd forever be cracking up at cartons of milk that had 'NO FECKIN HORMONES IN THIS YO!" emblazoned ont side and then there's the whole organic thing I hear a lot about on Facebook from my American chums.

Oh an' Why does anything from Trader Joe's not last more than 20 minutes before it starts growing mould? I'm remembering a festering Pumpkin Pie here and curdled milk...

Will do. I assume y'all have different medications and doses.

Don't believe the hype on trader joes. buncha liberal crap.

 

[aggravated farmer]

The fat cattle, are they sold direct for slaughter or go via a cattle sale yard , a dealer or a direct marketing co-op?

Your cull cattle, what happens with them?

If you have surplus calves or want one to foster on, how do you get them?

Do you transport your own stock on / off or hire a hauler?

Good quality cows that have been culled are sent to auction (hence why our herd is down, lots of money in cull cows this year)
We rarely sell our bull calves, only to people we are friends with and will raise them for their own freezer.
We have a hired truck that takes cattle to auction. steers, good cull cows. however we will transport a lame or poor looking cull or steer straight to the slaughter. we refer to it as "going down the road"

 

[JP1]

Good quality cows that have been culled are sent to auction (hence why our herd is down, lots of money in cull cows this year)
We rarely sell our bull calves, only to people we are friends with and will raise them for their own freezer.
We have a hired truck that takes cattle to auction. steers, good cull cows. however we will transport a lame or poor looking cull or steer straight to the slaughter. we refer to it as "going down the road"

Do you block calve? Looking forward to seeing the photos. Don't forget to post weather stats as I'm sure you get more extremes than us

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Anymore info on that, could you email me? I'm a history buff

My daughter is doing it as her dissertation and hopes to get over there next year, shall see what I can find,

 

[aggravated farmer]

Just to be the odd duck out I'd be interested in beekeeping stuff

Also have you ever looked into any anaerobic digestion or similar, especially since you're considering putting in a new parlour? I've actually never seen this come up on this forum which is odd considering all the dairy but then again... I don't know much about dairy so tend to trickle out of those discussions

I will do a separate thread containing the bee's! They are fun, and great for kids or the aging farmer to get into (a father and son project, turned to mostly son in my case)

If we were to build a new parlor we would have to put a slurry pit or pond in. There is one anaerobic operation near here, only because a lawsuit was filed by a country club. So I have little knowledge of it, since i haven't dealt with it firsthand.

 

[Major]

Will do. I assume y'all have different medications and doses.

Don't believe the hype on trader joes. buncha liberal crap.

Well apparently there's a lot of stuff still in use in the US that have been banned here for years. I know far too many anti-vax, gluten-free, organic, Food-Babe following "chicken has arsenic in it" hippy douches on Facebook.

 

[aggravated farmer]

My daughter is doing it as her dissertation and hopes to get over there next year, shall see what I can find,

Excellent, I have a book laying around that has some ohio history. I have only just received it, so I haven't been able to read it yet. If you come over give me a shout! ohio is bit big though!

 

[aggravated farmer]

Well apparently there's a lot of stuff still in use in the US that have been banned here for years. I know far too many anti-vax, gluten-free, organic, Food-Babe following "chicken has arsenic in it" hippy douches on Facebook.

I have had a dwindled Facebook friends list because of the police matter currently.

 

[Blaithin]

Well apparently there's a lot of stuff still in use in the US that have been banned here for years. I know far too many anti-vax, gluten-free, organic, Food-Babe following "chicken has arsenic in it" hippy douches on Facebook.

Hormone implants and feed additives are still very common over here while they've for the most part been banned there.

There's also variances in drug availability and protocols. For instance afaik the UK has Micotil but it may only be administered by a vet. That's not the case here where anyone can give Micotil, you just need a prescription to get it.