New Tractor and Loader

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
Going to look at a NH T.5 Dynamic Command and the Case equivalent CVX in the next few days, it will be interesting to compare them.
Update on loader tractors.
Have had a Valtra g135 on demo for a few days and really like it. Well built, easy and comfortable to drive with logical controls. Has just about teright level of gadgets without been stuffed full of buttons to play with. Good ride on the road, better than New Holland, pulling a 25 foot trailer with 30 quadrrant straw bales up and down hills. Price very similar to New holland.
New Holland has not been here long enough to assess properly but initialy seems a bit more complicated to use but slightly better visibility. Stacked full of toys and buttons, brakes are dead, transmission is good but not as smooth and fluid as the Gima 6 in the Valtra. Both have brake to clutch facility which is very good. Loving the shuttle in the Valtra.

A close run thing but the Valtra looks favorite at the moment. We will have to get down to some serious number crunching and see what they are really going to cost.
 

oil barron

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Update on loader tractors.
Have had a Valtra g135 on demo for a few days and really like it. Well built, easy and comfortable to drive with logical controls. Has just about teright level of gadgets without been stuffed full of buttons to play with. Good ride on the road, better than New Holland, pulling a 25 foot trailer with 30 quadrrant straw bales up and down hills. Price very similar to New holland.
New Holland has not been here long enough to assess properly but initialy seems a bit more complicated to use but slightly better visibility. Stacked full of toys and buttons, brakes are dead, transmission is good but not as smooth and fluid as the Gima 6 in the Valtra. Both have brake to clutch facility which is very good. Loving the shuttle in the Valtra.

A close run thing but the Valtra looks favorite at the moment. We will have to get down to some serious number crunching and see what they are really going to cost.
Don’t support the Chinese engines. If enough people do to save a few bucks, then it will be the only option and China will have us over a barrel.
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
Don’t support the Chinese engines. If enough people do to save a few bucks, then it will be the only option and China will have us over a barrel.
It is more about service from dealers, build quality and value for money than where the engine is assembled is it not? As others say it is a bit late for that!
 
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oil barron

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Don’t most manufacturers have plants in China and middle East etc now assembling sub components etc. Labour is cheaper so the money talks….
No other mainstream brand builds engines for western markets in China. Agco are testing the waters here to see if farmers will accept it.
If they do then soon it will be the only choice. It’s like Red Tractor. The early adopters make it compulsory for everyone else.
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
Don’t most manufacturers have plants in China and middle East etc now assembling sub components etc. Labour is cheaper so the money talks….
That is correct.

I believe Claas have factories in India, as well as the Far east, likewise Agco etc. They must all be shite! Welcome to the 21st century.
 
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Location
Cornwall
Looking at buying a new tractor and loader, 120hp+ 4 cylinder 40k or 50k . The options are, thinking about dealers and service: New Holland or Case Valtra or a secondhand 312 Fendt. What are peoples opinions, will not do massive hours but will be kept a long time and must be comfortable and reliable. Front and cab suspension are a must, loader will only get occasional use.

Could you keep your Massey with the loader on?
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
No other mainstream brand builds engines for western markets in China. Agco are testing the waters here to see if farmers will accept it.
If they do then soon it will be the only choice. It’s like Red Tractor. The early adopters make it compulsory for everyone else.
May just start and buy zetors now
 

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