New Tractor and Loader

[Finn farmer]

That is correct.

I believe Claas have factories in India, as well as the Far east, likewise Agco etc. They must all be shite! Welcome to the 21st century.

Indian factories produce tractors for local market if i've got my info right.

What's the price difference between G and N?

 

[icanshootwell]

No 50k option on vestrum, maybe a laptop mod could sort that tho

Not sure on that, was going to demo one, would have though the front axle would have to be upgraded but could be wrong.

 

[icanshootwell]

Indian factories produce tractors for local market if i've got my info right.

What's the price difference between G and N?

Depends on spec but 20k sounds about right

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I could but for various reasons we have decided to sell just about everything, change of business etc.

Does that mean this one is yours already?

 

[michael N123]

Update on loader tractors.
Have had a Valtra g135 on demo for a few days and really like it. Well built, easy and comfortable to drive with logical controls. Has just about teright level of gadgets without been stuffed full of buttons to play with. Good ride on the road, better than New Holland, pulling a 25 foot trailer with 30 quadrrant straw bales up and down hills. Price very similar to New holland.
New Holland has not been here long enough to assess properly but initialy seems a bit more complicated to use but slightly better visibility. Stacked full of toys and buttons, brakes are dead, transmission is good but not as smooth and fluid as the Gima 6 in the Valtra. Both have brake to clutch facility which is very good. Loving the shuttle in the Valtra.

A close run thing but the Valtra looks favorite at the moment. We will have to get down to some serious number crunching and see what they are really going to cost.

How much more expensive is the smallest Nseries?

 

[Matthew Britton]

What sort of work will it be doing?

I would be looking at a G series Valtra. Was very impressed with the cab layout when a sat in one.
We have a N154 and it's a great all round tractor

It’s ok if you don’t mind supporting the Chinese.

 

[Qman]

We should all stick together and try and avoid things made in China. The iPhones are made there because they can dump all the pollution in the rivers, whereas in a decent country they would have to be disposed of properly.

I would not buy a tractor with an engine made in the country who brought us covid.

 

[Sid]

We should all stick together and try and avoid things made in China.
I would not buy a tractor with an engine made in the country who brought us covid.

What about one that brought the whole world to war and killed millions of innocent civilians and service men......twice?

 

[Martyn]

Lovely nimble tractor, when we specked across brands very very little in it. We dint intend to buy one but if you keep it like other kit you won't loose much

 

[daveydiesel1]

What about one that brought the whole world to war and killed millions of innocent civilians and service men......twice?

I made that point 1 time and got shot down pretty quickly

 

[Matthew Britton]

What about one that brought the whole world to war and killed millions of innocent civilians and service men......twice?

I think you might find in a year or two that the Chinese will make the Germans look like kindergarten assistants. They have absolutely no regard for human life, or for that matter the environment. Money and power at all costs is what drives them. I sincerely hope that I am proved wrong but in my humble opinion supporting their economy is a grave mistake, having said that I know not buying Chinese is difficult but on the other hand when the option is available to send a shot over the bows of manufacturers to remind them that Chinese is not wanted then it should be taken.

 

[Sid]

I think you might find in a year or two that the Chinese will make the Germans look like kindergarten assistants. They have absolutely no regard for human life, or for that matter the environment. Money and power at all costs is what drives them. I sincerely hope that I am proved wrong but in my humble opinion supporting their economy is a grave mistake, having said that I know not buying Chinese is difficult but on the other hand when the option is available to send a shot over the bows of manufacturers to remind them that Chinese is not wanted then it should be taken.

IIRC
Japanese for many years were not all to have armed forces outside of their own country.

I agree Chinese human rights are severely lacking!
Cost of containers will help with the amount coming out of there.

 

[dave mountain]

Don’t most manufacturers have plants in China and middle East etc now assembling sub components etc. Labour is cheaper so the money talks….

I know they won't ever do it, but if the manufacturers offered the chinese engines as standard and say a Cummins or similar for £1k extra I would definitely pay the extra

 

[bluepower]

Does that mean this one is yours already? View attachment 986718

I don't quite understand where you are coming from?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I don't quite understand where you are coming from?

I was going to suggest this as a low houred alternative to a new tractor that met most of your criteria.

It's in a sale in 10 days very near where I thought you were but then when you mentioned selling all your kit for a change of business I guessed it must be your sale. I guessed wrong though by the sounds of it.

 

[bluepower]

I was going to suggest this as a low houred alternative to a new tractor that met most of your criteria.

It's in a sale in 10 days very near where I thought you were but then when you mentioned selling all your kit for a change of business I guessed it must be your sale. I guessed wrong though by the sounds of it.

Easily confused.

 

[oil barron]

I know they won't ever do it, but if the manufacturers offered the chinese engines as standard and say a Cummins or similar for £1k extra I would definitely pay the extra

It won’t work like that. If AGCO get away with it and these tractors sell then John Deere and CNH will copy it for their small tractors. Then it will be the bigger tractors. Then before you know it every tractor engine will be built in China.

 

[marco]

It won’t work like that. If AGCO get away with it and these tractors sell then John Deere and CNH will copy it for their small tractors. Then it will be the bigger tractors. Then before you know it every tractor engine will be built in China.

I don't know, there are alot of big companies pulling out of China. https://www.ft.com/content/4d8285a2-eff0-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195

Big multinational companies moving out of China

As the US-China trade war rumbles on and relations between other countries and Beijing deteriorate, many world-famous companies are deserting China.

www.lovemoney.com

Trump was right

 

[celtis man]

They are about the same price as a new ordinary tractor.

snows have a s/h 312 with loader done 800hrs i think , I saw it on fb this morning .

 

[Muddyroads]

snows have a s/h 312 with loader done 800hrs i think , I saw it on fb this morning .

How much? (POA I suppose? )