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[Derrick Hughes]

 

[JP1]

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You must be bored if you've gone to Australia looking

 

[Great In Grass]

But it won't tow more than about 2000kgs legally will it?

I wouldn't know JP I've never had the need to tow anything.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

 

[Great In Grass]

Merc GLE 350? Tows 3.265kg.

 

[JP1]

I think it's pretty simple:

IF you want to suffer high costs and personal taxation but want a comfortable 4x4; Q5/Q7 or Volvo XC90

If you want to be sensible; split it between a pickup (new or used, pros and cons for either), cash or lease (watch the damages for returns on a lease) keep the miles down, use it for towing and then have a nice car or car derived van. The BMW 3 series diesels cars or estates are good to drive, good on fuel and can come with X part-time 4wd spec if you really really say you need it. I bet most of your hill farming customers will have a Landrover or Pickup and a 2wd standard car or van themselves and will cope pretty well going up and down their Khyber Passes

Don't get a black 4x4, difficult to keep clean and if you stray in to the SW valleys everyone will think you're dealing

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I think it's pretty simple:

IF you want to suffer high costs and persoanl taxation but want a comfortable 4x4; Q5/Q7 or Volvo XC90

If you want to be sensible; split it between a pickup (new or used, pros and cons for either), cash or lease (watch the damages for returns on a lease) keep the miles down, use it for towing and then have a nice car or car derived van. The BMW 3 series diesels cars or estates are good to drive, good on fuel and can come with X part-time 4wd spec if you really really say you need it. I bet most of your hill farming customers will have a Landrover or Pickup and a 2wd standard car or van themselves and will cope pretty well going up and down their Khyber Passes

Don't get a black 4x4, difficult to keep clean and if you stray in to the SW valleys everyone will think you're dealing

I have had BMW for 30 years used to race them in the early days .still got two here now but the newer ones are no where near as reliable and you may as well leave it at home if you have any snow .been stuck in mud at many Cotswold farms as well .i dont want to be driving the Wifes car about and i dont facy doing a 1000 miles a week in a puckup

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I don't see trucks, I see Milf-wagons.

Nothing a plasma cutter can't fix......

 

[JP1]

I have had BMW for 30 years used to race them in the early days .still got two here now but the newer ones are no where near as reliable and you may as well leave it at home if you have any snow .been stuck in mud at many Cotswold farms as well .i dont want to be driving the Wifes car about and i dont facy doing a 1000 miles a week in a puckup

I agree with anything rwd especially on the run flats but why now demo an X spec 3 series car or estate - they love them in ski countries?

You're right you don't want to be doing 1000 miles a week in any 4x4 really including a pickup - although many do.

I still say you need a pickup for towing the Ifor and a free hand to choose anything you fancy car wise for economy

If you don't need 3500kg towing and still want a 4x4, the current pick would appear to be a Q5 or an XC90

 

[Great In Grass]

I agree with anything rwd especially on the run flats but why now demo an X spec 3 series car or estate - they love them in ski countries?

You're right you don't want to be doing 1000 miles a week in any 4x4 really including a pickup - although many do.

I still say you need a pickup for towing the Ifor and a free hand to choose anything you fancy car wise for economy

If you don't need 3500kg towing and still want a 4x4, the current pick would appear to be a Q5 or an XC90

Surely you don't mean that JP? Wife and I did almost 2200 miles in 9 days touring Scotland back in September average 54mpg too! Wouldn't hesitate to go again tomorrow (I wish I could actually).

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I agree with anything rwd especially on the run flats but why now demo an X spec 3 series car or estate - they love them in ski countries?

You're right you don't want to be doing 1000 miles a week in any 4x4 really including a pickup - although many do.

I still say you need a pickup for towing the Ifor and a free hand to choose anything you fancy car wise for economy

If you don't need 3500kg towing and still want a 4x4, the current pick would appear to be a Q5 or an XC90

I cant warm to the Volvo sorry . The Q5 seems neat but dated inside

 

[Great In Grass]

I cant warm to the Volvo sorry . The Q5 seems neat but dated inside

New Q5 about to be released not sure what's changed inside though.

 

[liammogs]

Seems to be a lot of Volvos about, they must be going cheap somewhere.

Volvo qualify under the nfu discount

 

[JP1]

Surely you don't mean that JP? Wife and I did almost 2200 miles in 9 days touring Scotland back in September average 54mpg too! Wouldn't hesitate to go again tomorrow (I wish I could actually).

I can see why many wouldn't. I don't mind driving or what I drive, I do that easily in a 1.6 Peugeot Partner van (I do like my retro fitted cruise control). I've driven all sorts over the last 30 years all on high mileages; Vito Van, Mk1 Disco 200tdi, Audi A4, BMW 520D tourer, 535 tourer, E320 cdi (4 of them estate and saloon), C250D Sport Estate Auto (the older model - possibly the best and most bullet proof car I've ever had), Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max.

I'm different, if you said drop a parcel off and drive to Poland tonight, it wouldn't phase me

 

[Great In Grass]

I can see why many wouldn't. I don't mind driving or what I drive, I do that easily in a 1.6 Peugeot Partner van (I do like my retro fitted cruise control). I've driven all sorts over the last 30 years all on high mileages; Vito Van, Mk1 Disco 200tdi, Audi A4, BMW 520D tourer, 535 tourer, E320 cdi (4 of them estate and saloon), C250D Sport Estate Auto (the older model - possibly the best and most bullet proof car I've ever had), Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max.

I'm different, if you said drop a parcel off and drive to Poland tonight, it wouldn't phase me

........ but you wouldn't drive to Poland in a 4x4.

 

[GTB]

Ummm this thread is starting to go a bit like asking Holly Willoughby, Rachel Riley or Suzanna Reid. FFS I'm not that fussy, any one of them would be amazing.

 

[Great In Grass]

Ummm this thread is starting to go a bit like asking Holly Willoughby, Rachel Riley or Suzanna Reid. FFS I'm not that fussy, any one of them would be amazing.

Ah but which would be best in the Cotswold mud?

 

[GTB]

Ah but which would be best in the Cotswold mud?

Ah you'd be better off with a Kim Marsh or a Kate Silverton for that

 

[JP1]

........ but you wouldn't drive to Poland in a 4x4.

Of course I would, yes. My 2010 Isuzu or any 4x4. The point I'm making (obviously badly) is that some folks don't like a cart spring type ride and prefer an all comforts 4x4. Personally having driven an Evoque recently, I wasn't that enamoured. The main point is Derrick putting 150k miles on a 4 x 4 over three years will cost and I'd sooner have something "farmery" at the ranch for towing, going in to Carmarthen market and then having something more economical, nimble on the twisties for the rest

 

[sleepy]

Didn't @Sleepy haul bales with a X5?

It wasn't much good, it was on its last legs anyway but towing finished it off, had to limp it in to the garage when it was traded in