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Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Machinery' started by jonnieboy, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:15 AM.

  1. jonnieboy

    jonnieboy Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Story so far
    2nd season with the sumo DTS over 400h and so far so good. Soils are variable but hard on wearing parts and stones are a prominent feature from fist size to football plus . I have to budget on 2 sets of front legs per season.
    Rotation is
    Wheat beans wheat winter barley osr wheat naked oats . Straw from cereals and rape is baled and swapped for fym and applied on a 3 yr rotation .
    No bg but bromes are a problem I seem to have inherited (only my 2nd year as manager ) but I’m hoping the beans and osr give me a decent chance to reduce the brome problem . This land does respond well to hybrid winter barley and historically has often produced the highest margin and early osr entry so don’t want to drop it.
    Current tackle is carrier drill rolls
    I’m not looking to replace the dts but add a drill with less disturbance, bean stubbles this year we’re crying out for a dd solution.
    Now bearing in mind the uncertainty looming and the fact I have a finance manager and very strict budgets to adhere to new drills are off the menu .

    Any thoughts ?
    I would love for the dts to have a removable drilling element so I could swap to the dd toolbar when required?
     
  2. TeaBread

    TeaBread New Member

    Moores used if you are keeping other kit
     
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  3. Warp Land Farmer

    Location:
    Hazzard County
    Do you rate your Moore?
     
  4. AG Tim

    AG Tim Member

    We are thinking about taking off the loosening leg for spring seeding - then only drill with 5" Coulter or 1" Coulter. Than wouldnt move that much soil?!?

    When we drill the last wheat in autumn we switched over to Broadcast 120-160 Kernels per squaremeter with the fertspreader (RAUCH AXERA on 24 m) and then drill 280-380 Kernels per squaremeter with the sumo. Sounds strange but its a way to close up gaps with wheat between the rows, which is one Problem we have pointed out over the last years. A second coulterasembly or a switched arm to use the 1" Coulters in 16cm row width could also be an option that wouldnt throw to much soil, when the loosening legs wont touch the ground.

    But i also would like to have a disc opinion, maybe someday we could get a cheap vaderstad rapid
     
  5. TeaBread

    TeaBread New Member

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  6. Warp Land Farmer

    Location:
    Hazzard County
    Not many about with the front otico press wheels
     
  7. clbarclay

    clbarclay Member

    Location:
    Worcestershire
    The older style unidrills are still effective. They have their limitations, but for the most part are very good value and compliment a tine drill to cover a wide range of conditions.
     
  8. jonnieboy

    jonnieboy Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Not had a good look at a moore before will they handle bouncing over cobbles ? I know some machines you look at and think 5 ac and it will be a bag of bits
    I see agri linc have a sumo/moore 8m in , don't think finance manager will ok that though are they the same principle ?
     
  9. Andrew K

    Andrew K Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Versadrill similar design but front legs take huge amount of pulling when engaged
     
  10. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    convert a Horsch CO to low disturbance like I did for our second drill ?
     
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  11. Fish

    Fish Member

    Location:
    North yorkshire
    If you have stones of a certain size, the Moore will be a no go,
     
  12. jonnieboy

    jonnieboy Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire

    I sort of knew I was going to have to read all that thread :eek:
     
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  13. jonnieboy

    jonnieboy Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Have you drilled any wheat with the pimped CO @Clive I am slightly worried that any late drilled wheats might not fill out enough in the wider rows had a similar problem with the DTS last year with some land we didn't get the nod to drill till November ?
     
  14. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    I don’t think the wider rows are an issue but no experience of wide riwd drilled as late as November
     

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