NFU or TFA

With the current situation of SFP changing to ELMS will the TFA support tenants better than the NFU. After a discussion with the family we feel the ELMS will turn into a situation with landowners being able to create private subsidised nature reserves with no public access(look no further than the national trust) and the tenanted sector being thrown to the wolves. We feel as tenants our subcription might be better used by a dedicated agency rather than an agency run by mainly landowners(Minette Batters excluded of course).
Discuss !!
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
With the current situation of SFP changing to ELMS will the TFA support tenants better than the NFU. After a discussion with the family we feel the ELMS will turn into a situation with landowners being able to create private subsidised nature reserves with no public access(look no further than the national trust) and the tenanted sector being thrown to the wolves. We feel as tenants our subcription might be better used by a dedicated agency rather than an agency run by mainly landowners(Minette Batters excluded of course).
Discuss !!
No contest
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
NFU only represent a small number of the Farming sector that don't really need the support at all . As soon as you have a problem they run a mile ......hence I'm no longer a member .
TFA sounds like I could join we have a couple of FBTs so I assume that will qualify us even though we own the home farm.
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
With the current situation of SFP changing to ELMS will the TFA support tenants better than the NFU. After a discussion with the family we feel the ELMS will turn into a situation with landowners being able to create private subsidised nature reserves with no public access(look no further than the national trust) and the tenanted sector being thrown to the wolves. We feel as tenants our subcription might be better used by a dedicated agency rather than an agency run by mainly landowners(Minette Batters excluded of course).
Discuss !!

There are tiers to ELMs we are only seeing the farming stuff. You are right some land owners may choose the non-farming tiers, however I doubt it would make financial sense with good farming land. Thus I can’t see why ELMs will be bad for tenant farmers. In fact I really do hope the lock up the concept that the land has to be farmed to access the stuff we are seeing.
 
OK, both NFU and TFA are crap for FBT's but are tops for AHA's.
TFA is a cheaper sub but lacks clout and now has a chairman with no balls, a wet rag!
NFU, Minette is a tenant on FBT (has good landlord) sub dearer, great insurance (do take the extra rents and dispute cover less than a hundred quid) well worthy it.
County tenants committee's are represented by AHA guys and have thrown FBT tenants under a bus all but one East Anglian bloke who's fighting like a demon, pissing the brown noses off.
Oh TFA Business Protector insurance is crap and a waste of money as it has gone up by £100 this year for Fudge All.
Who ever you join FFS get involved stamp your feet, demand fair terms (none of this Market Rents review formula) and campaign to drive rents down and term lengths up.
We all need to make a living Tenant, landlord even landagent (oh alright Fudge them).
Remember if we all tender low instead of "willy wave" then that sets the market.
In conclusion; Minette is probably the best leader we have had so far she certainly has more balls than any of the others past or current, but she needs to be backed by men not their jockstraps.
As for George...he needs a kick up the arse, a decent chairman and decent committee.
You pays your money......
 
With the current situation of SFP changing to ELMS will the TFA support tenants better than the NFU. After a discussion with the family we feel the ELMS will turn into a situation with landowners being able to create private subsidised nature reserves with no public access(look no further than the national trust) and the tenanted sector being thrown to the wolves. We feel as tenants our subcription might be better used by a dedicated agency rather than an agency run by mainly landowners(Minette Batters excluded of course).
Discuss !!
Ever heard of a certain Bedfordshire farmer whom the CLA hate?
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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