NH T7.225 or T7.230

Genesis

Member
Location
Ireland
Hi, just wondering what are people's views on how these 2 tractors compare to each other? Having driven a few Auto command equipped T7s recently, I really like the transmission. I realise that the SWB only has a 2 range transmission compared to the 4 ranges in the LWB, is there a noticeable difference between the 2 both on the road or in the field? Ideally I think I would prefer the LWB, as they seem to have a better reputation, but I think it might be a bit too big and heavy for most of the jobs we have for it. Main tasks would be sowing with either a 3M powerharrow drill with front press, or a 4M rapid. Fertiliser spreading with a 3TON spreader, ploughing with a 5 furrow KV EG reversible plough ,spraying with a 2800L trailed sprayer, and a little bit of carting with 16 to 18 ton trailers. There is also a 5.5M disc harrow but I doubt either would handle that on ploughed ground as it takes most of 300hp on hilly fields.
There isn't a lot of roadwork involved, 90%+ would be field work.
Not interested in other brands, as we have a great independent mechanic locally, and the NH main dealer is only 20 mins away.
Thanks!!!!
 

BigBarl

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Notts
We’ve had two LWB with auto
Command and both been great tractor. Our T7.245 pulls the 6m catros And 4m rapid fine up hilly ground all be it we don’t plough.
 
Hi, just wondering what are people's views on how these 2 tractors compare to each other? Having driven a few Auto command equipped T7s recently, I really like the transmission. I realise that the SWB only has a 2 range transmission compared to the 4 ranges in the LWB, is there a noticeable difference between the 2 both on the road or in the field? Ideally I think I would prefer the LWB, as they seem to have a better reputation, but I think it might be a bit too big and heavy for most of the jobs we have for it. Main tasks would be sowing with either a 3M powerharrow drill with front press, or a 4M rapid. Fertiliser spreading with a 3TON spreader, ploughing with a 5 furrow KV EG reversible plough ,spraying with a 2800L trailed sprayer, and a little bit of carting with 16 to 18 ton trailers. There is also a 5.5M disc harrow but I doubt either would handle that on ploughed ground as it takes most of 300hp on hilly fields.
There isn't a lot of roadwork involved, 90%+ would be field work.
Not interested in other brands, as we have a great independent mechanic locally, and the NH main dealer is only 20 mins away.
Thanks!!!!

Same tractor but different colour …… Lwb Case equivalent is much nicer than the swb versions. The added weight and length of the lwb makes the front suspension in particular operate better but the whole thing is better balanced.
 

Genesis

Member
Location
Ireland
Thanks for the replies so far, pretty much what I had expected really!!! Most of the work we have probably only needs about 160hp, so that is why I am even considering the SWB. Plus, it's probably about 1.5 tons lighter than the LWB equivalent.
I'm wondering would a LWB be a bit clumsy on the sprayer? It's only a 2800L with 21 metre booms, although that will likely be changed to a slightly bigger sprayer in a few years.
A neighbour of mine had a puma 175cvx for a short while but did not like it. It was one of those special edition jobs with the venom paint, so came on large tyres. One complaint was that the steering lock was very poor and the other that he thought it was a little gutless. In fairness, he didn't really know how to set it up properly so it may not have been the tractors fault, but I prefer to be well on top power wise so that would concern me with regards to the SWB and possibly a more power sapping 2 range transmission.
I would much prefer the LWB, I just want to be sure that it won't be too clumsy for some of the jobs it will be doing.
I should add that it will be a lowish hour used machine we will be looking for if that makes any difference.
Thanks!!!
 

stevedave

Member
The short wheelbase would be fine for most of your work but an EG plough is a big lump and I would guess the short wheelbase would struggle with it a bit especially on banks.
 

Genesis

Member
Location
Ireland
I'm not that well up on these tractors @Mur Huwcun , but as far as I'm aware the back end in the LWB is a nice bit stronger, although I do think the Autocommand SWB like the 210 and 225 have double disc brakes. I don't know if they are the same size as the LWB.
I could also be completely wrong!!!!
 

Genesis

Member
Location
Ireland
We're not dead set on a 230 by any means, if the right 250 came up we would also consider that. Condition and hours will be most important
 

Genesis

Member
Location
Ireland
I don't know for certain but I think there is a heavier duty cross shaft and linkage fitted to the LWB. They have a higher lift capacity definitely, 8.25 ton for the SWB and almost 10.5 ton on the LWB.
 

Mur Huwcun

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
I don't know for certain but I think there is a heavier duty cross shaft and linkage fitted to the LWB. They have a higher lift capacity definitely, 8.25 ton for the SWB and almost 10.5 ton on the LWB.
yes the LWB is significantly different, in power command form, are the auto commands the same or do they use the HD back end?
 

stevedave

Member
I don't know about the newer ones but my old T7.200 had twin discs but the power and range command didn't . The T7.185 we had before the 200 was single disc.
 

WillB

Member
Location
Shropshire
Have you seen both? If the SWB has same backend as 210s etc it will be a lot lighter and single disc brakes etc. Technically a TM 155 re styled
They now have double brake discs. Well the spec sheet on our new 210 said it does. Apparently a recent amendment.

EDIT - Should have read the posts above!
 

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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In July, we opened the applications window for farmers to join our Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot.

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Through the Sustainable Farming Incentive, farmers will be paid for environmentally sustainable actions – ones that are simple to do and do not require previous agri-environment scheme experience.

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