NHS.....Its only as bad as a normal winter

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
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South Molton
John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) Tweeted: NEW: a common response to reports of hospitals struggling this winter is "it’s no different to a bad flu season!" I’ve tracked down historical data on flu ICU admissions, including winter 2017-18, a record high. Here’s how England’s Covid winter compares to a bad flu season 📹 https://t.co/tsExrDZM31
 

essex man

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colchester
Deaths and testing.
London shows more in spring then less later on
Other regions more of two smaller spike
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Pasty

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Devon
All the graphs posted by Mr Essex appear to show excess deaths. Surely you don't want those numbers to be higher by allowing icu to become overwhelmed?
I question this logic. Overwhelmed. Hmm. So in March I had a cosy little side job in the local pub. Enjoyed it and a bit of extra cash. They closed it. Hospitals meanwhile are going through their annual 'crisis' which is manufactured by the media. I'm a bright chap. So why are they not on the phone to me and saying they are facing an emergency and can I do some emergency training to do the basics to help this massive influx of patients, overseen by medical professionals? Why not? Wouldn't that have made sense? Why open all these massive hangers full of beds with no staff to man them? I won't go on because I'll be called a fool and a conspiracy theorist.
 

Charlie Gill

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Location
Kent
I question this logic. Overwhelmed. Hmm. So in March I had a cosy little side job in the local pub. Enjoyed it and a bit of extra cash. They closed it. Hospitals meanwhile are going through their annual 'crisis' which is manufactured by the media. I'm a bright chap. So why are they not on the phone to me and saying they are facing an emergency and can I do some emergency training to do the basics to help this massive influx of patients, overseen by medical professionals? Why not? Wouldn't that have made sense? Why open all these massive hangers full of beds with no staff to man them? I won't go on because I'll be called a fool and a conspiracy theorist.
Maybe they hadn't heard you had lost your job.

Here you go:

Fill your boots.
 

Pasty

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Devon
It's less because that's how viruses work. I did post a video from a chap called Ivor Cummings earlier in the year who called this accurately as it's how it always goes. Why are we being kept in our homes, not allowed to gather, being made to look like gimps in public and removed from our jobs while the businesses we worked for are being destroyed and then being jabbed with an untested vax? Seems all a bit sinister to me but I'm sure it's all fine. Jesus.
 

Pasty

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Location
Devon
Maybe they hadn't heard you had lost your job.

Here you go:

Fill your boots.
Every one I have read need clinical qualifications as they are all high end positions in my area. I don't have these. Most of them are also for the local prison. I don't actually need a job as I have a business but I'm wondering. If it's a 'war' against this terrible virus, why are they not actively recruiting able bodied people to join the effort to defeat it? Surely all they would need to do is supply them with the tik tok app and some twerking training.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
All the graphs posted by Mr Essex appear to show excess deaths. Surely you don't want those numbers to be higher by allowing icu to become overwhelmed?
The problem is no one is allowed to question present policy. Lockdown was supposed to be the answer but it isn’t because now there’s a new variant that gets round lockdown we have vaccines but they cannot get them out quickly enough. The truth is no one knows what to do they pretend they do but they are just reacting and more often than not it’s to problems of their own making. It’s a policy of fear and not so much fear of the disease but fear of seeming to be callous.
 

Charlie Gill

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Kent
Every one I have read need clinical qualifications as they are all high end positions in my area. I don't have these. Most of them are also for the local prison. I don't actually need a job as I have a business but I'm wondering. If it's a 'war' against this terrible virus, why are they not actively recruiting able bodied people to join the effort to defeat it? Surely all they would need to do is supply them with the tik tok app and some twerking training.
How's your dad?
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Every one I have read need clinical qualifications as they are all high end positions in my area. I don't have these. Most of them are also for the local prison. I don't actually need a job as I have a business but I'm wondering. If it's a 'war' against this terrible virus, why are they not actively recruiting able bodied people to join the effort to defeat it? Surely all they would need to do is supply them with the tik tok app and some twerking training.

You mean like recruiting lots of retired NHS staff and doctors?
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
The problem is no one is allowed to question present policy. Lockdown was supposed to be the answer but it isn’t because now there’s a new variant that gets round lockdown we have vaccines but they cannot get them out quickly enough. The truth is no one knows what to do they pretend they do but they are just reacting and more often than not it’s to problems of their own making. It’s a policy of fear and not so much fear of the disease but fear of seeming to be callous.

How can you say lockdown doesn't work? Every time there has been an area put in lockdown, the R number has dropped, and numbers of cases have followed.
The current big increase in hospitalisations being seen, in the SE particularly, is being put down to the relaxation in lockdown rules pre, and over, Christmas.

This is all in spite of increasing numbers of fecktards thinking the rules don't apply to them. One can only imagine how much more effective the strategy would be if people used a bit more common sense?
The biggest mistake this government has made is in trusting people to be sensible, rather than telling them, and enforcing it. Obviously the @Pasty 's of this world would have been out marching with their tin foil hats on though, dodging the controlling mind rays....
 

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