NI / ROI border - again...

james ds

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leinster
Quite a lot of dairy products exported, quite a lot of concrete products exported, both mainly to the rest of the UK. Those are the 2 main industries I'm involved with so can't comment on any other exports with much certainty. What do you export from NI?
Most of your milk that's exported goes south for processing , as does most of your lamb .
 

james ds

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Location
leinster
How much beef and dairy does (soon to be did) the South sell to the UK?
Doubt we'll need any sheep meat either, thank you.
Ireland imports more dairy from the uk than we export there , beef is the big one alright , as for lamb we import millions of lambs from the uk and export none to the uk . You export most of your lamb to France , that won't last much longer and you eat mostly lamb from NZ . So you will definitely have loads of spare lamb shortly. Your dairy farmers in Northern Ireland need to get plenty of dry cow tubes as most of their milk is processed in the south .
 

alex04w

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Livestock Farmer
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Co Antrim
Does about sum it up, good old Brits held to ransom every 4 years by the DUP.
No, you are wrong. The EU is held to democratic accountability by the DUP and others in the NI assembly every four years.

Which is opposed to May's deal which meant that the rules in NI were enforced on NI and were not subject to any place of governance that anyone in NI could elect someone to for representation.
 

yin ewe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
No, you are wrong. The EU is held to democratic accountability by the DUP and others in the NI assembly every four years.

Which is opposed to May's deal which meant that the rules in NI were enforced on NI and were not subject to any place of governance that anyone in NI could elect someone to for representation.
Which is why the EU probably won't accept it.
 

Muck Spreader

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Location
Limousin
No, you are wrong. The EU is held to democratic accountability by the DUP and others in the NI assembly every four years.

Which is opposed to May's deal which meant that the rules in NI were enforced on NI and were not subject to any place of governance that anyone in NI could elect someone to for representation.
So they get to hold the Irish government to ransom as well. And NI businesses get to live in permanent uncertainty, how do you invest in the future with that hanging over you.
 
Eire in the eu.
NI in Britain therefore checks?
All the complex brexit issues and seems all down to this???
Question time last night ,speaker stated ,you treat Ireland bad ,you can kiss good buy with any America support???? As big Ireland connections and supporters out there.
 

Widgetone

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No, you are wrong. The EU is held to democratic accountability by the DUP and others in the NI assembly every four years.

Which is opposed to May's deal which meant that the rules in NI were enforced on NI and were not subject to any place of governance that anyone in NI could elect someone to for representation.
and the DUP ( a minority leave party in a remain majority NIreland ) alone get the right of a veto??
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
If you stir up a muddy pond you will never see the fish clearly .
Even my wife questioned me about Northern Ireland this morning
Do we have to spend the rest of our lives in chains because they cant sort out 2% of our trade
I have no problem with a border between the UK and the ROI, I also have no problem with 'no border' between the UK and ROI. The only border I have any sort of a problem with, is an internal one between constituent parts of the UK.

I do think that the previous Government let the EU set the agenda on this, whereas Boris has taken the right line: we won't have a border, you do what you want. Further, and I write as someone who was in NI during the 'troubles', i.e. terrorist campaign(s), I am not convinced that anyone will (re)start a terror campaign on the basis of our leaving the EU and not having a border, other than those already inclined that way.

On that last point I'll happily bow to the combined wisdom of my countrymen in NI and stand corrected, but it seems to me - from personal experience and the opinions of family / friends in NI - that despite there always being some idiots, the number of people who will now support a terror campaign has very, very greatly diminished.

Once we're out of the EU, and once it is seen that life will carry on across the border, I think the 'threat' will prove to be no more than a damp squib.
 

TheRanger

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Location
SW Scotland
What part of "the UK voted leave" don't you understand?

But if you insist on counting votes by country.
More Scottish voters voted to leave the EU than voted for the SNP.
That’s kind of my point. It is a remainer argument that “Northern Ireland voted to remain”. It’s a flawed argument, as you say it was a UK wide vote.
 

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