NI / ROI border - again...

flatliner

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East Tyrone
I have no problem with a border between the UK and the ROI, I also have no problem with 'no border' between the UK and ROI. The only border I have any sort of a problem with, is an internal one between constituent parts of the UK.

I do think that the previous Government let the EU set the agenda on this, whereas Boris has taken the right line: we won't have a border, you do what you want. Further, and I write as someone who was in NI during the 'troubles', i.e. terrorist campaign(s), I am not convinced that anyone will (re)start a terror campaign on the basis of our leaving the EU and not having a border, other than those already inclined that way.

On that last point I'll happily bow to the combined wisdom of my countrymen in NI and stand corrected, but it seems to me - from personal experience and the opinions of family / friends in NI - that despite there always being some idiots, the number of people who will now support a terror campaign has very, very greatly diminished.

Once we're out of the EU, and once it is seen that life will carry on across the border, I think the 'threat' will prove to be no more than a damp squib.
I think you've got it spot on. The threat of a return violence is nothing more than a bluff, and is being shamefully used as a political lever.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms

Blue voted Leave, yellow voted remain

To say “Northern Ireland voted to remain” doesn’t tell the true story.
Speaking of stories, I've heard the Idiot in Chief of the WAG say in an interview that '...Wales didn't mean to vote to leave...' which really beggars belief. I wonder if, on his understanding of a democratic majority, he accept that Wales didn't mean to vote for devolution?
 

Still Farming

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Livestock Farmer
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Glamorgan Wales
BBC 2 Americas with Simon Reeve .

Bit about" must be the worlds friendlyus " boarders between Canada and America.
Camera posts thats it?
Anything to learn ftom these ideas?
Backstops etc.
 

Boohoo

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Newtownabbey
"Merkel said that if Germany wanted to leave the EU they could do it no problem, but the UK cannot leave without leaving Northern Ireland behind in a customs union and in full alignment forever."

I can't get my head around this. How is a land border between Germany and France, Germany and Belgium, Germany and The Netherlands etc etc different to a border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland?
 

24/7 farming

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Location
Donegal
I struggle to see the actual economic significance of the border in all of this!?, what is actually going to change when the UK leaves?, they say different custom rules regulations and standards will apply, but what that will actually be?, any why?, are the EU or UK going to suddenly drop standards on the things they produce??, why do the rules have to be different? As I understand it the UK are getting out because they want to set their own standards, but surely not to drop them or change them sooo dramatically??, anyway why can't there be two standards if needs be? We already have different 'tarrifs/standards' on loads of items, fuel, fags, alcohol, sugar taxes, hell its even two different currencies either side of the 'border', but for example all the fuel we use in this part of Ireland is supplied from ports in Northern Ireland.
Milk has been mentioned before... NI cannot process all the milk they produce, a fair chunk comes across the border gets processed and goes back across the border again (in a few hours) to be sold both in the ni market and UK market, they say there is not enough spare processing capacity in the UK for this milk, but this won't be able to continue after brexit?
 
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Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
"Merkel said that if Germany wanted to leave the EU they could do it no problem, but the UK cannot leave without leaving Northern Ireland behind in a customs union and in full alignment forever."

I can't get my head around this. How is a land border between Germany and France, Germany and Belgium, Germany and The Netherlands etc etc different to a border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland?
Because the EU and remainers here need it to be a spoiler...
 

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