Nitrogen on canyon spring oats

[farmer dave136]

only second year of growing spring oats I gave them 80units acre last year what’s everyone else give them??

 

[PSQ]

88 units / 110Kg/Ha of N, single hit after sowing as last year the 2nd split didn't see rain until June.
Canopy to keep them short. Might try 120kg/N on some.

@Clive likes to go with higher N rates, like the Irish farmers use.

 

[Brisel]

I was thinking of around 115 kg/ha N on my Elyann, hopefully to be sown next week. They will get a good dose of PGR. High seed rate due to low germination on farm saved seed.

 

[Clive]

88 units / 110Kg/Ha of N, single hit after sowing as last year the 2nd split didn't see rain until June.
Canopy to keep them short. Might try 120kg/N on some.

@Clive likes to go with higher N rates, like the Irish farmers use.

140kg - as per more recent rb 209 advice as well

Oats respond well to more n - those Irish guys were right !!

 

[Robert]

What established plant numbers per m2 are people aiming for drilling this week / next? I wonder if we've been going too high to the detriment of bushel weight....

 

[principal skinner]

I was thinking of around 115 kg/ha N on my Elyann, hopefully to be sown next week. They will get a good dose of PGR. High seed rate due to low germination on farm saved seed.

What are you calling a high seed rate? Plants per M and germination please

 

[Brisel]

330 kg/ha seed rate due to a germ of 52%. I’ll have to look back at my notes to see the plant count I wanted. 300 - 350/m2 I think.

 

[shakerator]

330 kg/ha seed rate due to a germ of 52%. I’ll have to look back at my notes to see the plant count I wanted. 300 - 350/m2 I think.

How’s the germ so buggered ?

 

[Brisel]

Drought killed the crop off early. The straw was green but the ears were shedding.

 

[principal skinner]

Thank you, I’m going at 325 seeds M. 330 kgs will be a steady job I bet, will the metering unit handle it??

 

[Brisel]

Thank you, I’m going at 325 seeds M. 330 kgs will be a steady job I bet, will the metering unit handle it??

It would do 350 kg/ha beans so I hope so. The spec weight is around 42 kg/ha and TGW is 36g so plenty of bulk to wind through the metering unit!

 

[farmer dave136]

I drill them at 325 which was 130kg

 

[shakerator]

Drought killed the crop off early. The straw was green but the ears were shedding.

Quite incredible ! I think we are in for major problems this year water wise

 

[average farmer]

Anyone put fert on before drilling?

I put half on before drilling most of mine last year, good job really as I don’t think there was enough rain after drilling to wast the rest in properly.

 

[rob1]

Anyone put fert on before drilling?

I put half on before drilling most of mine last year, good job really as I don’t think there was enough rain after drilling to wast the rest in properly.

Yes spin all the urea on a wk before drilling boith oats and barley, the S went on in dec

 

[Brisel]

Anyone put fert on before drilling?

I put half on before drilling most of mine last year, good job really as I don’t think there was enough rain after drilling to wast the rest in properly.

Yes. All mine will be on the seedbed to be stirred in by the drill. Half the spring barley N done the same way.

 

[jh.]

140kg - as per more recent rb 209 advice as well

Oats respond well to more n - those Irish guys were right !!

Was thinking about your 140kgN/hec while spreading yara amidas on mine this morning .

I wonder if liquid is not as efficient and evaporates quicker . I saw an article saying the yen crowd are consistently finding yield lower with liquid so perhaps you have upped rates to over come this , possibly granual totals could be lower ?

 

[Brisel]

Was thinking about your 140kgN/hec while spreading yara amidas on mine this morning .

I wonder if liquid is not as efficient and evaporates quicker . I saw an article saying the yen crowd are consistently finding yield lower with liquid so perhaps you have upped rates to over come this , possibly granual totals could be lower ? View attachment 790656

Hmm. I've yet to see any data saying lower yields with liquid vs solid, and less from urea vs AN. If you can point me in that direction, I'd be grateful.

I'm not interested in seeing "free" press articles written by sellers of solid fertilisers slagging off liquid.

 

[Chae1]

Hmm. I've yet to see any data saying lower yields with liquid vs solid, and less from urea vs AN. If you can point me in that direction, I'd be grateful.

I'm not interested in seeing "free" press articles written by sellers of solid fertilisers slagging off liquid.

Doesn't stop them doing that to urea?

 

[Brisel]

Doesn't stop them doing that to urea?

Yes, and I treat those with equal disdain. Ironic how Yara is one of the world's biggest urea producers (and sells it here too) yet continuously slags it off in their UK ads!