Nitrogen question

[teslacoils]

Actually you're correct , I hate kg's
So is my agro's maths wrong with this calc .... 260kg/ha Nitrogen (208units/acre) for a 10tonne crop

I would expect to use 25kg N per hectare (20 units per acre) for every ton of feed wheat I get off it. 30kg or 24 units per acre for 13 percent milling wheat.

I read it as the op was putting 300kg of product on per hectare. 300*46/200 is 138kg/ha or 110 units per acre.

 

[bobk]

I would expect to use 25kg N per hectare (20 units per acre) for every ton of feed wheat I get off it. 30kg or 24 units per acre for 13 percent milling wheat.

I read it as the op was putting 300kg of product on per hectare. 300*46/200 is 138kg/ha or 110 units per acre.

Thanks , I still love units though .

So , 110 units ... bang it on and give it another 100 in 6 weeks

 

[le bon paysan]

Soissons(?) and Chevalier are the wheats. The latter is going to be FSS for the autumn. I will use 1 fungicide on it. Last 2 years it has paid to be early. Harvest is normally early July. August is a month off but with covid may not be able to go out much.

 

[Two Tone]

Sossions(?) and Chevalier are the wheats. The latter is going to be FFS for the autumn. I will use 1 fungicide on it. Last 2 years it has paid to be early. Harvest is normally early July. August is a month off but with covid may not be able to go out much.

August is a month off!

August always flies by here because we are so busy. I often wonder if I have ever lived in any Augusts.
Car registration letters used to change in August and that was the only sign that registered with me that it was actually August.

Enjoy it anyway.
But think of us poor sods sat in our air conditioned cabs harvesting and/or drilling Rapeseed and Linseed.

Glad to hear that Soisson (I assume) wheat is still grown en France!
Is Chevalier also another bearded/awned wheat?

 

[le bon paysan]

Soissons is now on the way out but newer ' better' varieties' are about and bearded. Chevalier I've grown before.
http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/lebonpaysan/media/Farm/DSC04096_zpse71nlw9e.jpg.html

 

[MrNoo]

That’s very interesting.

I assume your land is Brash and more prone to drought than here, so can see the logic behind your larger first dose.
My only question is why do you split Urea into 3 doses? (Assuming you are not referring to a final dose for milling wheat as dose 3).
I’ve always found that it works so much more slowly than AN. So I want it all on sooner, combining the last 2 doses as one.
However, If I was forced to use AN, I’d go with 3 doses (not including the last extra dose for milling wheat).

But if it works for you, don’t let me put you off!


BTW, I have used Urea as a very late dose of N on Milling wheat to raise the protein, in late May. And it works!

But, I became so sick of inevitably waiting for “The Claims phone call” after each lorry that left the farm for anything (usually moisture or bushel weight) they hoped would let them have it cheaper, that I now only grow higher yielding feed wheat that I personally deliver to a local Mill and earns me in reality as much income, but without the hassle! They take it up to 16.5% without me drying it for claims less than half the cost I could dry it for.

Yes, for milling, would normally do just the two but have found three better. I know what you mean re speed of action although I do like using Urea, have had no issues and not only that all the tractor electrics/paintwork etc lasts a darn sight longer

 

[teslacoils]

I used to grow Soissons. 250kg. 8t/ha. Awful straw. Beautiful grain.

 

[czechmate]

I used to grow Soissons. 250kg. 8t/ha. Awful straw. Beautiful grain.

Yields well here being so early and the awns. Not bad for going flat. I smash mine up to fatten cows which seems a waste (but the cattle seem content enough).
Surprisingly, I managed to get some new seed last autumn (so I can keep it going a little longer).
I had an early barley variety, bloody hell, every year I was cutting it on June 26th (wedding anniversary) but a pain as I am normally still finishing hay. Have a new variety this year, picked purely for virus tolerance.

On topic @le bon paysan, I have done 100kg urea over these last days and plan to do another 150kg late March. (Btw, I dont think we are allowed to use “basic” urea after March? any more)

 

[le bon paysan]

Going 2/3 1/3 split. Still start of March and a wet week next week if the forecast is to be believed.

 

[czechmate]

Going 2/3 1/3 split. Still start of March and a wet week next week if the forecast is to be believed.

Not wet to loose urea I don’t think

 

[Two Tone]

Not wet to loose urea I don’t think

How far apart do you and @le bon paysan live from each other?
I cant remember where @Muck Spreader lives. But how far from him too?
Do you ever get to meet up much, Covid restrictions otherwise?

 

[Two Tone]

Soissons is now on the way out but newer ' better' varieties' are about and bearded. Chevalier I've grown before.
http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/lebonpaysan/media/Farm/DSC04096_zpse71nlw9e.jpg.html
View attachment 944894

Fascinating! A lovely looking crop of wheat. Loved looking at your photobucket pictures too.

 

[Muck Spreader]

How far apart do you and @le bon paysan live from each other?
I cant remember where @Muck Spreader lives. But how far from him too?
Do you ever get to meet up much, Covid restrictions otherwise?

Not far @czechmate 16 -17 miles from me @le bon paysan about 5 miles. There are quite a few other forum members within a hour or so as well.

 

[czechmate]

How far apart do you and @le bon paysan live from each other?
I cant remember where @Muck Spreader lives. But how far from him too?
Do you ever get to meet up much, Covid restrictions otherwise?

Funnily enough, we were all in the same room together last year about two weeks before Covid arrived in Europe (well, when we knew it had arrived)

 

[Cowcorn]

Soissons is now on the way out but newer ' better' varieties' are about and bearded. Chevalier I've grown before.
http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/lebonpaysan/media/Farm/DSC04096_zpse71nlw9e.jpg.html
View attachment 944894

Loved your photos le bon paysan . You seem to have a really nice place over in France and nice classic tractors to boot You seem to have got the whole job sussed with a nice relaxed lifestyle decent climate and enough to earn a decent living without running yourself ragged .
Fair dues and best regards.

 

[essexpete]

Not far @czechmate 16 -17 miles from me @le bon paysan about 5 miles. There are quite a few other forum members within a hour or so as well.

Where is your nearest big town out of interest?

 

[czechmate]

Where is your nearest big town out of interest?

Thiat
Or if you mean even bigger than Thiat, we are all mid way between Limoges and Poitier

 

[essexpete]

Thanks for reply.

 

[le bon paysan]

Where is your nearest big town out of interest?

20 minutes NE of Bellac.

 

[D14]

Split dose 2/3 1/3 or all in 1. It's urea. 300 kgs/h.

Gone off Urea as we went to wider tramlines and we couldn't get it to spread without investment into a new spreader. We had the sprayer so went liquid but when we were using urea on 24m our best response was to use it for all the nitrogen requirements and split it 3 ways but go 2 weeks earlier than you would with nitrogen. We tended to do 60%, 20%, 20%.