No deal brexit dress rehearsal.

thesilentone

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Well, we have some of the best scientists in the World, and that has been proved. We were first to identify the mutation which will already be Europe wide, maybe long before it came to the UK.

Macron has payed a card to early knowing fine well the mutation will already be widespread in France.

Boris is getting his way on fishing, however not quite their yet, and Macron knows it. " You play hardball, we play hardball " The French had a Navy Ship in UK waters yesterday without authority.
 

robs1

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This is not a ND dress rehearsal, the borders won’t be shut to business they will just be more like a dog agility course than an autobahn. As for the nasty French shutting down borders to travellers after Boris said it was the worst variant yet and Hancock saying it was out of control - how dare they and the 40 other countries protect their own citizens and health care systems! Oh yes and we banned London and SE residents from travelling the U.K. on non essential travel but that’s ok. The usual suspects come out all
Anti EU/France etc, but would declare BJ a king of people had the situation been the reverse. At this moment in time countries need a leader who has the balls to stand up and take no shite in doing right thing for the country, shame we have an idiot and a
team of yes men.
That would be going straight to no deal today then, get some certainly and move on,
 
Boris is getting his way on fishing, however not quite their yet, and Macron knows it. " You play hardball, we play hardball " The French had a Navy Ship in UK waters yesterday without authority.
Please explain as according to @Werzle Boris has dropped the demand from 65% to 30%? I have no idea what has or not happened on the fishy issue but would like to know if anyone has an insight into the situation. I do think (dont know) BoJo has caved in on regulatory standards for UK goods being exported to the EU, ie we will comply with their import rules and regulations in order to access their market, the reason I believe this is because not even a member of the EU has access to the EU market without such aligned regulations.
 

robs1

Member
I've heard "no one knows what will happen under ND" so please point out the certainty thats now all of a sudden appeared?
It means wto tariffs will be applied until a deal is done it means no fishing in our waters, that will focus minds on the continent, it means more paperwork and checks so time will be have to be allocated for it, systems will develop/adjust, those who play solly buggers will be sidelined and avoided.
 

Celt83

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Livestock Farmer
At what point does this stop being political and becomes a human rights problem?

Admittedly I don't watch the news, but how do these drivers use basic amenities like going to the toilet?

They can't have an infinite amount of food at their disposal, what happens when this runs out?

One things for sure in my eyes at least, Macron isn't covering himself in glory.
 
It means wto tariffs will be applied until a deal is done it means no fishing in our waters, that will focus minds on the continent, it means more paperwork and checks so time will be have to be allocated for it, systems will develop/adjust, those who play solly buggers will be sidelined and avoided.
So in essence we know exactly now what we have for the past 4.5 years as to what WTO means on rules, regs, logistics etc, and have known for the past 7 months in terms of tariff levels on imports but we have no idea what the impact will be on trade volumes, market prices, delays, procedures, IT capability etc but somehow you see that as certainty.
 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
At what point does this stop being political and becomes a human rights problem?

Admittedly I don't watch the news, but how do these drivers use basic amenities like going to the toilet?

They can't have an infinite amount of food at their disposal, what happens when this runs out?

One things for sure in my eyes at least, Macron isn't covering himself in glory.


I have a feeling the issue of toilets will be swept under the carpet by the RHA. Many trucks come off motorways to park in local lay-by's overnight to avoid overnight parking charges. The back of the lay-by is not a place to venture, as they have become open air toilets. The RHA has had many complaints and keep deflecting the issue.
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have a feeling the issue of toilets will be swept under the carpet by the RHA. Many trucks come off motorways to park in local lay-by's overnight to avoid overnight parking charges. The back of the lay-by is not a place to venture, as they have become open air toilets. The RHA has had many complaints and keep deflecting the issue.
The pictures I've seen of the 100's of lorries parked up on the road it's going to take more than a sweep to clean it up and a magic carpet to hide it all under!
 

robs1

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So in essence we know exactly now what we have for the past 4.5 years as to what WTO means on rules, regs, logistics etc, and have known for the past 7 months in terms of tariff levels on imports but we have no idea what the impact will be on trade volumes, market prices, delays, procedures, IT capability etc but somehow you see that as certainty.
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Most of those things are coming in a weeks time whatever happens,it will have to be dealt with just the same as other issues, I well remember when milk quotas came in, no notice and the year had started, we just had to get on with it, same with some of the more recent rules. Is it ideal no of course not but to get an agreement both sides need to be ready to compromise, from some stories even some in the EU are pee'd with macron.
 

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